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perhaps it looks like a beat up on muslim thread to me.
but b4 we flog them i think its good to look at our abusive behavior right here at home, and its not all male on female. in fact for us domestic violence is 50/50.
i find the muslim rehetoric no less offensive than conversations i have overheard at the office by women bragging about abusing their husbands.
perhaps it looks like a beat up on muslim thread to me.
but b4 we flog them i think its good to look at our abusive behavior right here at home, and its not all male on female. in fact for us domestic violence is 50/50.
i find the muslim rehetoric no less offensive than conversations i have overheard at the office by women bragging about abusing their husbands.
Huck, I am not gonna debate this with you......I walloped my ex with a cast iron skillet once.
But that was while he was beating me so badly, I delivered our twin sons stillborn at 8 months just hours later.
Just saying that what you are speaking of is a subject for another thread, you know?
when the left and the women on the view holds up the Muslims , they also hold up sharia law against women.. yet the left suppose to support women.. I guess it is only women who are liberal .. come to think of it, the liberal women don't support the conservative women either.. double hypocrites.
In your world not frothing at the mouth against all Muslims is tantamount to unconditional adulation of Islam and welcoming sharia law with open arms.
(That is why everything you say can be dismissed as hyper-partisan nonsense.)
I care as little about Islam as I do about Christianity (Meaning: Not at all) I abhor violence, and have a particular issue with domestic violence, having been on the receiving end of it as a child. I have, and would again, intervened when I have witnessed this reprehensible behavior.
Your attempts to lay the crimes of a foreign culture at the feet of liberals, none of whom even remotely advocate violence against women, just because we don't also advocate exterminating all Muslims wholesale, disgusts me.
In your world not frothing at the mouth against all Muslims is tantamount to unconditional adulation of Islam and welcoming sharia law with open arms.
(That is why everything you say can be dismissed as hyper-partisan nonsense.)
I care as little about Islam as I do about Christianity (Meaning: Not at all) I abhor violence, and have a particular issue with domestic violence, having been on the receiving end of it as a child. I have, and would again, intervened when I have witnessed this reprehensible behavior.
Your attempts to lay the crimes of a foreign culture at the feet of liberals, none of whom even remotely advocate violence against women, just because we don't also advocate exterminating all Muslims wholesale, disgusts me.
Agree. Notice the far right has no issue with rush and his misogyny and hate, but they act as if liberals want "sharia law" which must be a beck talking point.
In the book’s opening pages, it is written that “it might be necessary to restrain her with strength or even to threaten her.”
Isn't true love a beautiful thing?
I hate gettng involved in these threads, but we are taking about a culture (Islam) which rejects, among other things, the (relatively recent) Western idea of romantic love as a crucial component of matrimony.
It is very difficult to keep one's cultural distance in debates over what is "right" and "wrong" behavior, when looking at things from a cross-cultural perspective.
Many Muslims -- including females -- would argue that disciplining one's wife is a way to demonstrate commitment or even "love", in a sense. If nothing else, it shows that the husband is paying attention to his wife and cares enough about her to play what his culture would define as the proper role of the husband in a marriage.
We westerners have tended to move toward a titular form of equality in all of our relationships, including sexual. Many of us see this as a natural progression from our Humanist/Enlightenment roots. Keep in mind, though, that much of the rest of mankind, including Islam, never experienced either a humanist awakening movement or an Enlightenment movement, with the fruits of the latter still very much at work in shaping social mores and policies. We ignore this difference at our peril.
Here's an interesting, if somewhat annoying, recent take on it:
So, you think that you do, in fact need to discipline your wife then ?
In reality, you just started a thread about how terrible it is to be muslim, but you reserve your right to give the missus a slap if she steps out of line, while using the premise that you actually care about female equality to have an excuse to rant about muslims.
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Originally Posted by Grandpa Pipes
I won't say that some women might not need at least a spanking but I don't hold with a closed hand into a fist.
I won't say that some women might not need at least a spanking but I don't hold with a closed hand into a fist.
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