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Old 03-28-2012, 10:13 PM
 
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Agree 100%. It would have just been another non story. And this is what all the hoopla is about. This is what all the in house bickering is about. The fact remains, a tragedy occurred. There is a fight to find out the truth, and hopefully justice will prevail.

Why does a case like this have to happen before everyone explodes? That's the big question. People are all tired about hearing race as an issue on CD? What do people think fuels this current situation? Everything is about race whether we like it or not. Period.

Zimmerman is a "white" hispanic according to the news? Is this term thrown in just for effect? What if he was an illegal alien fresh off the border? What if he was a new arrival from the middle east? The media is taking full opportunity of this "situation", and the entire American populace are the chumps for buying it.
This is not hoopla, it is exposing police corruption in America- something we need to take a good hard look at. If it was white on white or black on white or even purple on green doesn't matter. The bright light is shining right where it needs to be.

And don't think for a minute that, say, if a white "upstanding citizen" was involved in exactly the same scenario with a white "cracker", the same good ole boy cover-up wouldn't happen...even if the media didn't pick it up. Most of this stuff is not picked up by the media, but guess what? That doesn't mean it isn't happening with some frequency. Making this specifically about black/white racism is a red herring.

 
Old 03-28-2012, 10:16 PM
 
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He was very skinny. Only 140 pounds, that is on thin side when you're 5ft 8 inches tall, but when you're 6ft 3 inches tall that is very, very thin.
I'm looking at that picture, there is no way in hell he only was 140 pounds.
 
Old 03-28-2012, 10:17 PM
 
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There is no such duty, the Constitution is clear, the duty is for the state to have probable cause to arrest him. They have not yet which after at least two weeks of intense scrutiny that to me says a lot more than some tape being framed by the MSM with an agenda.
Trayvon Martin Investigator Wanted to Charge George Zimmerman With Manslaughter - ABC News

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The lead homicide investigator in the shooting of unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin recommended that neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman be charged with manslaughter the night of the shooting, multiple sources told ABC News.



But Sanford, Fla., Investigator Chris Serino was instructed to not press charges against Zimmerman because the state attorney's office headed by Norman Wolfinger determined there wasn't enough evidence to lead to a conviction, the sources told ABC News.
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Serino filed an affidavit on Feb. 26, the night that Martin was shot and killed by Zimmerman, that stated he was unconvinced Zimmerman's version of events.
Sanford cops wanted to charge Zimmerman in Trayvon Martin case - Trayvon Martin - MiamiHerald.com (http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/27/2718130_sanford-cops-wanted-to-charge.html#storylink=addthis#storylink=cpy - broken link)

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the Sanford Police Department requested an arrest warrant from the Seminole County State Attorney’s office, the special prosecutor in the case told The Miami Herald on Tuesday.A Sanford Police incident report shows the case was categorized as “homicide/negligent manslaughter.”
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Read more here: Sanford cops wanted to charge Zimmerman in Trayvon Martin case - Trayvon Martin - MiamiHerald.com (http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/27/2718130_sanford-cops-wanted-to-charge.html#storylink=addthis#storylink=cpy#storyl ink=cpy - broken link)
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Asked to confirm that the police recommended a manslaughter charge, special prosecutor Angela Corey said: “I don’t know about that, but as far as the process I can tell you that the police went to the state attorney with a capias request, meaning: ‘We’re through with our investigation and here it is for you.’ The state attorney impaneled a grand jury, but before anything else could be done, the governor stepped in and asked us to pick it up in mid-stream.”


A capias is a request for charges to be filed.


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Old 03-28-2012, 10:19 PM
 
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I'm looking at that picture, there is no way in hell he only was 140 pounds.
I agree completely.
 
Old 03-28-2012, 10:20 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ditchlights View Post
Agree 100%. It would have just been another non story. And this is what all the hoopla is about. This is what all the in house bickering is about. The fact remains, a tragedy occurred. There is a fight to find out the truth, and hopefully justice will prevail.

Why does a case like this have to happen before everyone explodes? That's the big question. People are all tired about hearing race as an issue on CD? What do people think fuels this current situation? Everything is about race whether we like it or not. Period.

Zimmerman is a "white" hispanic according to the news? Is this term thrown in just for effect? What if he was an illegal alien fresh off the border? What if he was a new arrival from the middle east? The media is taking full opportunity of this "situation", and the entire American populace are the chumps for buying it.

in a nut shell^^^ thats sums it up..


i still want to see lindsay lohan pose for hussler for $19.99
 
Old 03-28-2012, 10:21 PM
 
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Trayvon Martin Investigator Wanted to Charge George Zimmerman With Manslaughter - ABC News





Sanford cops wanted to charge Zimmerman in Trayvon Martin case - Trayvon Martin - MiamiHerald.com (http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/27/2718130_sanford-cops-wanted-to-charge.html#storylink=addthis#storylink=cpy - broken link)
Sounds like Sanford PD covering their ass more than anything else. Lord knows they needed some good press. By putting forth this unrealized hypothetical wanted-to situation, it would seem they were trying to say "We tried.......but....." in order to calm the masses.
 
Old 03-28-2012, 10:21 PM
 
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The following should be under the heading..."Things You Never Thought You Would Google"


How Bloodstain Pattern Analysis Works

If a gunshot occured at close range, the victim might have stippling, or burns on his skin from gunpowder. Shots fired at very close range can also cause internal muzzle staining. When this happens, the victim's blood is sucked back into the gun's muzzle by the cooling of the explosive gases that are released when a short is fired. Testing the gun's muzzle for blood can provide an additional clue to solve a case.

HowStuffWorks "Blood Spatter"
This is when the shooter is being held down by the shootee right? Zimmerman shot Martin, Martin's body flew off of Zimmerman (as opposed to slumping down on top of him), spun in the air and landed face first in the dirt. This link is while both are standing correct?
 
Old 03-28-2012, 10:22 PM
 
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yea Martin definitely didn't weigh 140
 
Old 03-28-2012, 10:24 PM
 
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Ever shot a gun? Serious question, not being snarky. If so, you've probably shot something close range before, right? Ever notice how the bullet penetrates with less "explosion" (for lack of a better word) than those things that you shoot farther away? The velocity is such it punches right through instead of chewing it's way through.

Best I can do to paint a mental picture....but I believe there's plenty of info out there to suggest that blood spatter is far less for close contact shots.
Regardless, are you asserting the blood loss would be non-existent or of such low volume that it could fit into the barrel of the gun, if drawn into it?

There needn't be dramatic spatter for blood to get on someone who presumably was underneath someone who got shot in the chest.

If you're suggesting that Zimmerman managed to get up and away from Martin after getting his head bashed on the sidewalk, I'll concede he might escape blood getting on him. But that sure changes the nature of the struggle and account of firing the gun in the heat of the moment with Martin pounding him and trying to snatch the gun, doesn't it?
 
Old 03-28-2012, 10:25 PM
 
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That's why i'm curious as to what chronological point in the process this video was taken? Too many unanswered questions to be jumping to the conclusions that some on this thread are jumping to in my view.
Well it was not taken before the shooting...I think that we can all agree on that. It was taken when Zimmerman was escorted handcuffed into the police station. I would imagine it was taken within a few hours of the shooting.
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