Bill Clinton or Barack Obama: Who Makes a Better President? (poll, Canada)

[Redshadowz]

Originally Posted by michiganmoon

Obama.

Clinton is mostly myth.

While I agree that much of Clinton's supposed accomplishments were largely a myth because of the strong economy built on the tech boom of the late 90's. I don't feel that comparing Clinton to Obama is an even remotely fair contest.

If we at least look at Clinton in an unbiased light. We know that Clinton not only ran on a pledge to reform the Welfare system, that reform happened. Thus helping to break the dependency on the Welfare system.

If you look at Obama, he has done nothing but increase dependency on the Welfare system.

Clinton ran on balancing the budget, and did make attempts in that direction. Obama doesn't seem to care about the budget.

Clinton had the Housing Market bubble and dot com stock bubble build on his watch and he did nothing significant to stop it...blew up under Bush....Obama is still cleaning up some of it.

The problem with this statement is that, I don't think Obama would have done anything about the Housing bubble had he been the president at the time. Take for instance the community reinvestment act, which required banks to basically lend to minorities and the poor, and is largely at fault for the housing bubble. Do you really think Obama would have done anything differently? In my opinion, things would have been worse under Obama than Clinton in regards to bubbles.

Clinton let his presidency be marked by scandals that shutdown his government....Obama hasn't.

While Obama's government didn't get shut down, it certainly came close to it. The difference between then and now is not because Obama is a genius. But rather it was that neither the Republicans nor the Democrats wanted a shutdown, because of what happened during the Clinton presidency.

I don't believe that if Obama had been president in 1995, that we would have avoided a shutdown.

Clinton didn't pursue Bin Laden aggressively, even though multiple attacks on US....Obama did pursue him.

Bin Laden might have died on Obama's watch, but I highly doubt Obama himself had anything to do with CIA policies that enabled them to find Bin Laden. The CIA had been gathering information for years under a directive that was the result of the Bush administration and people like Dick Cheney, whom the liberals despise. As well as information from terror suspects detained in Guantanamo bay and water-boarded.

So don't pretend for a minute that Obama would have done anything more than what Clinton did.

Clinton gave China most favored nation status.

And Obama actually plans to change that? Not likely.



The reality is, when you compare Obama to Clinton, Obama just comes out the weaker link.

Clinton is simply more intelligent and more knowledgeable, he is a better communicator. He comes off more likeable and less elitist. Regardless of the squabbling between Republicans and Democrats, Clinton was much better at working across the isle than Obama. Clinton ran on a platform of shrinking welfare and the national debt. Neither really interest Obama.


Right now Clinton is out doing good works in his Clinton-global-initiative. What do you think Obama will be doing 10 years from now?

[cruxan]

Originally Posted by joebaldknobber

Obama has a plan; we will find out when he is reelected.

his plan is to run up the deficit, and make a false economy while everybody is looking the other way..


i would have to vote for the heads up cliton

[SunnyKayak]

I first thought Clinton but he did destroy manufacturing in this country with NAFTA and other free trade deals and put in place DADT

[LS Jaun]

Originally Posted by Packard fan

Clinton. Wish he would run again and I'm NOT a Dem.

I'm with ^^^. Best run we have had in decades!

Originally Posted by seain dublin

Clinton, the last President that I had any faith in.

If his teleprompter broke he could keep going.

If it wasn't for the teleprompter Obama would have never been elected.

[git45]

Having only one term, Obama just doesn't have the track record....yet.

[Taratova]

At least Clinton reached across the aisle and did welfare reform.

[Taratova]

Originally Posted by Redshadowz

While I agree that much of Clinton's supposed accomplishments were largely a myth because of the strong economy built on the tech boom of the late 90's. I don't feel that comparing Clinton to Obama is an even remotely fair contest.

If we at least look at Clinton in an unbiased light. We know that Clinton not only ran on a pledge to reform the Welfare system, that reform happened. Thus helping to break the dependency on the Welfare system.

If you look at Obama, he has done nothing but increase dependency on the Welfare system.

Clinton ran on balancing the budget, and did make attempts in that direction. Obama doesn't seem to care about the budget.

The problem with this statement is that, I don't think Obama would have done anything about the Housing bubble had he been the president at the time. Take for instance the community reinvestment act, which required banks to basically lend to minorities and the poor, and is largely at fault for the housing bubble. Do you really think Obama would have done anything differently? In my opinion, things would have been worse under Obama than Clinton in regards to bubbles.

While Obama's government didn't get shut down, it certainly came close to it. The difference between then and now is not because Obama is a genius. But rather it was that neither the Republicans nor the Democrats wanted a shutdown, because of what happened during the Clinton presidency.

I don't believe that if Obama had been president in 1995, that we would have avoided a shutdown.

Bin Laden might have died on Obama's watch, but I highly doubt Obama himself had anything to do with CIA policies that enabled them to find Bin Laden. The CIA had been gathering information for years under a directive that was the result of the Bush administration and people like Dick Cheney, whom the liberals despise. As well as information from terror suspects detained in Guantanamo bay and water-boarded.

So don't pretend for a minute that Obama would have done anything more than what Clinton did.

And Obama actually plans to change that? Not likely.



The reality is, when you compare Obama to Clinton, Obama just comes out the weaker link.

Clinton is simply more intelligent and more knowledgeable, he is a better communicator. He comes off more likeable and less elitist. Regardless of the squabbling between Republicans and Democrats, Clinton was much better at working across the isle than Obama. Clinton ran on a platform of shrinking welfare and the national debt. Neither really interest Obama.


Right now Clinton is out doing good works in his Clinton-global-initiative. What do you think Obama will be doing 10 years from now?

Playing golf and partying.

[joebaldknobber]

Why is Bill trying to screw things up for our President?

Obama is ruint.

[SunnyKayak]

I choose Barack, because Bill had illusion everything was fine and reep the rewards of the tech & .com boom but reaching across the aisle as poster stated above created this free trade agreement that sent our manufacturing over seas.It used to be easy to find made in USA but good luck randomly doing that today. There is small towns in North Carolina that relied on furniture & textile manufacturing now there is slim pickings.

Also he was one who signed DADT and DOMA. Now he says he ok with Gays.

[Fiddlehead]

Clinton was/is a brilliant man. He was also a disgrace as president. You don't **** your interns.

Obama has more class.