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View Poll Results: Do you support or oppose ObamaCare?
I support ObamaCare. 74 40.88%
I oppose ObamaCare. 107 59.12%
Voters: 181. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-27-2012, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Houston
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You must not work for a living. That $100k operation isn't free if you have any assets or a job. You will have a garnishment slapped on you before they close the sutures are fully healed. Hospitals WILL mantain margins. If you don't (or can't) pay, the people who have insurance will pay the bill for you. But it will get paid.
I know plenty of people who have skipped out on emergency room visits because of the cost and the best the hospital could do was try and collect. None of them have ever had garnishments placed on their income.
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Old 03-27-2012, 09:53 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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I would bet money that by a good sized majority that the people who DON'T support Obamacare are in reasonably good health.
You'd win.
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Old 03-28-2012, 06:23 AM
 
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I voted 'yes' although I do think the individual mandate will be struck down by the Court.

As much as I hate paying (through property taxes) for the health care of the deadbeats, I agree that the Commerce Clause is not applicable for enforcing the mandate. Indeed, back in law school you spend quite a bit of time in studying the commerce clause, and quickly learn about how Congress has expanded its meaning beyond all original intent.
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Old 03-28-2012, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Neither here nor there
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If the government can force private citizens to purchase health care, there is no limit to what they can force private citizens to do--all in the name of "regulating commerce". Can the implantable chip be far behind?
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Old 03-28-2012, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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If the government can force private citizens to purchase health care, there is no limit to what they can force private citizens to do--all in the name of "regulating commerce". Can the implantable chip be far behind?
Good regurgitation.
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Old 03-28-2012, 08:24 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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This "law" is dishonest from its inception.

If Obama actually stated his true intention (in my opinion) he would have proposed pure socialized medicine, totally paid for by the government and abolished private care. Then he could truly run a significant portion of all of our lives.
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Old 03-28-2012, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Exclamation You're off topic...

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1 in 3 people are on medicare/caid now.
Estimated fraud is over $50 billion. Do you realy wanna see med fraud at $150 billion?

If you'd like to start your own thread on fraud, please feel free to do so.
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Old 03-28-2012, 08:42 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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If the government can force private citizens to purchase health care, there is no limit to what they can force private citizens to do--all in the name of "regulating commerce". Can the implantable chip be far behind?
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Good regurgitation.
Which does not make it untrue, no matter how the likes of you try to spin it.
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Old 03-28-2012, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Yes, I would have liked to see it go further, prefer single payer or at least a public option, however it was sure as hell better than the status quo.
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Old 03-28-2012, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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besides the unconstitutional fact that the federal goverment is not allowed to penalize someone for not buying a product or make anyone buy a product.
Which provision in the US Constitution prohibits that power? Let us start there.
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