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View Poll Results: Do you support or oppose ObamaCare?
I support ObamaCare. 74 40.88%
I oppose ObamaCare. 107 59.12%
Voters: 181. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-28-2012, 11:06 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Which provision in the US Constitution prohibits that power? Let us start there.

show me where the constitution gives the potus the authority to force people to buy a product?
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Old 03-28-2012, 11:20 PM
 
Location: Northern Va. from N.J.
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Typical liberal. And by liberal, I mean both Democrats and the RINOs running the Republican party these days.

It's medical costs. It's college tuition. It's housing costs. It happens over and over again. Liberals meddle in some sector of the economy with government entitlements, grants, and loans, then prices skyrocket when they destroy the market with inefficiency and crony capitalism and the removal of competition and individual responsibility, and then when it gets out of control they blame capitalism and want government to fix it with regulations and need even more bueaucracy and taxes to enforce those regulations. When everything would have been fine all along if they'd just left it alone in the first place.

See, the government wouldn't need to come up with a solution for the trillion dollar cost of healthcare if government hadn't started subsidizing healthcare to begin with. If it weren't for LBJ and his Great Society, costs wouldn't have been spiralling out of control for the past 40 years and we wouldn't be at this crisis point.
The only thing spiralling out of control is the costs of wars which is in the trillions, then add the entire military/defense budget including homeland security and all the spy agencies which is over a trillion a year.
Stop the wars cut the military spending, close the tax loop holes for corporations tax the 1% and we will not only have enough money to pay for medical for everybody but we could also offer a free college education.
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Old 03-29-2012, 12:04 AM
 
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show me where the constitution gives the potus the authority to force people to buy a product?
show me where in the constitution that it says we must have insuracne to drive our cars?

show me where in the constitution that it says we must pay for our food? shouldn't food be FREE for all since its by everyone in order to live?

show me where in the constitution that it says that we must pay the utilities to provide us with clean water and electricity? you need both in order to survive.
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Old 03-29-2012, 10:51 AM
 
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show me where in the constitution that it says we must have insuracne to drive our cars?

show me where in the constitution that it says we must pay for our food? shouldn't food be FREE for all since its by everyone in order to live?

show me where in the constitution that it says that we must pay the utilities to provide us with clean water and electricity? you need both in order to survive.
Psst, all the things you mentioned are STATE issues.

If you don't down a car do you still have to have insurance?
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Old 03-29-2012, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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If you don't down a car do you still have to have insurance?
Why should state control my choices for my mobility? Its my car, its my time and its my money. States gets taxes, and should deal with it. What next, insurance to buy a baseball bat?

But on a more serious note, a car may be optional, your health issues ain't. You're guaranteed to be a sucker, to insurance company to the government and to the society. It is why I feel that we deserve a true to form Obama Care... some form of single payer/public options system and none of that mostly republican crap from the 1990s we were dealt.
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Old 03-29-2012, 12:20 PM
 
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Since the Supreme Court is currently hearing the ObamaCare case, I wanted to see how everyone on the forum feels about the law.

How can you support something that you know nothing about???


Pelosi: "We Have to Pass the Bill So That You Can Find Out What Is In It" - YouTube
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Old 03-29-2012, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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Free health care for everyone!
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Old 03-29-2012, 12:42 PM
 
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Interesting poll. It's numbers currently seem to reflect the country's mood about Obamacare.
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Old 03-29-2012, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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show me where the constitution gives the potus the authority to force people to buy a product?
Define a product. Do missiles count?
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Old 03-29-2012, 02:20 PM
 
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Why should state control my choices for my mobility? Its my car, its my time and its my money. States gets taxes, and should deal with it. What next, insurance to buy a baseball bat?

But on a more serious note, a car may be optional, your health issues ain't. You're guaranteed to be a sucker, to insurance company to the government and to the society. It is why I feel that we deserve a true to form Obama Care... some form of single payer/public options system and none of that mostly republican crap from the 1990s we were dealt.

More loony logic.

And of course, always with the insult, " none of that mostly republican crap" because others don't believe as you do.

For someone who chooses such a forum name, you are FAR from being an Einstein.
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