Do you support ObamaCare? (prison, children, schools, single)

[Quick Enough]

Originally Posted by EinsteinsGhost

Define a product. Do missiles count?

So now you have purchased missiles?

[EinsteinsGhost]

Originally Posted by Quick Enough

More loony logic.

And of course, always with the insult, " none of that mostly republican crap" because others don't believe as you do.

For someone who chooses such a forum name, you are FAR from being an Einstein.

Thank you for an example of loony logic, because I didn't see anything else where to respond to.

Originally Posted by Quick Enough

So now you have purchased missiles?

Not any less (and likely more) than you've spent on someone else's health care or social services.

[2nd trick op]

Originally Posted by ted08721

It just puts more money into the pockets of the healthcare companies, healthcare should not be for profit.
Demand one payer healthcare for everyone.

This is the stumbling block of the entire argument -- the "not-for-profit" single-payer fantasy gauarantees uniformly poor health care and forces responsible people into the Medicaid ghetto with the riffraff one step out of the drug economy, the gangs, and the prison system
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As long as our schools refuse to teach the simple fact that "profit" (and I'm including the returns frpom the oeration of colleges, hosptitals and your local PBS/NPR outlet) is what makes expansion of any economic activity possible, sites like this one will continue to be inundated with teenyboppers and overgrown children who see it as a dirty word. But I assure you that our unionized educational system sees no benefit in correcting that lie.

Sio the circus will continue

[juppiter]

Reluctantly support. I would rather have status quo + public option, or Medicare For All, but if it is between ObamaCare and the status quo, I choose ObamaCare.

[AuDiBelle]

Obamacare was simply a kickback to Obama's friends in the insurance industry, the pharmaceutical industry, and the unions.

[justNancy]

Originally Posted by ted08721

It just puts more money into the pockets of the healthcare companies, healthcare should not be for profit.
Demand one payer healthcare for everyone.

I agree and wish I could change my vote. I voted yes because I was thinking it's a beginning and better than nothing. Of course "Medicare for all" makes a lot more sense. If he had trouble getting this bill through, we know single-payer would have been impossible. I mean, there's not even a public option.

[waterboy7375]

It is a plan that was designed to fail. Some of the things in it were already laws , reason they are in it is the people trying to " fix" healthcare didnt know enough about it to fix it.

[carneadesthatesstratoofga]

More Americans will like the Act as they see the publicity for what the law has already produced. Meidcare-Medicaid for all truly would be Obama cares!

[LookinForMayberry]

Originally Posted by afoigrokerkok

Since the Supreme Court is currently hearing the ObamaCare case, I wanted to see how everyone on the forum feels about the law.

I strongly support it, though I do recognize it is not the "end all" solution it does get us closer to where we need to be -- and yes, I believe everyone should have to be insured. If they rule against the mandatory insurance clause, then I believe we should revise existing legislation to deny anyone Medicare or Medicaid that has refused to be insured after the Court ruling. It is those that refuse to insure themselves until there is a problem that causes the drain on our reserves.

[Spartanguy]

Originally Posted by 2nd trick op

This is the stumbling block of the entire argument -- the "not-for-profit" single-payer fantasy gauarantees uniformly poor health care and forces responsible people into the Medicaid ghetto with the riffraff one step out of the drug economy, the gangs, and the prison system
.
As long as our schools refuse to teach the simple fact that "profit" (and I'm including the returns frpom the oeration of colleges, hosptitals and your local PBS/NPR outlet) is what makes expansion of any economic activity possible, sites like this one will continue to be inundated with teenyboppers and overgrown children who see it as a dirty word. But I assure you that our unionized educational system sees no benefit in correcting that lie.

Sio the circus will continue

Why is profit necessary in the insurance industry? An industry does not even create products. At least with drug companies you can defend them making money at they make a product. There is no reason why the insurance industry shouldn't be not for profit.