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Old 03-29-2012, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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"No government except the police, courts of law, and the armed services.No regulation of anything by any government.
No Medicare or Medicaid.No Social Security.No public schools.No public hospitals.No public anything, in fact. Just individuals, each looking out for himself, not asking for help or giving help to anyone."
We had that once. The result was that no regulations allowed factories to dump untreated waste and dangerous chemicals into the water and air; it allowed bosses to exploit works; it allowed children to work in factories instead of going to school; -- In short, it allowed the worst abuses by those with power against those without power.

Having no government regulation means that the individual can do anything in their interest regardless of how it affects the public as a whole. Me dumping my garbage in the public street makes sense to me because it obviates the cost of trash collection but it puts the cost onto my neighbors to remove it. That's why we passed laws that forbid these practices and we are better of because of it.
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Old 03-29-2012, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Certainly I agree with any Rand if they removed the restriction on practicing Human Pest Control. The would be "leaders" would be in a mess if anyone they hurt or damaged could legaly kill them. In a Randian World "eye for eye, tooth for tooth" IS the alternate to government.

Welcome to Hell on Earth. No, Thanks.
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Old 03-29-2012, 09:27 AM
 
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"No government except the police, courts of law, and the armed services.No regulation of anything by any government.
No Medicare or Medicaid.No Social Security.No public schools.No public hospitals.No public anything, in fact. Just individuals, each looking out for himself, not asking for help or giving help to anyone."

Cite your quote please.
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Old 03-31-2012, 01:58 AM
 
Location: US
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Pretty hypocritical coming from a woman who took Social Security and Medicare.

She's describing Somalia, the Libertarian paradise. With GOP darling, Paul Ryan, calling her his primary political influence, it's no wonder the GOP is proposing a budget to kill medicare.It makes me think Ayn Rand was a hack writer who cashed in on the young Baby Boomers just as they reached college age.
Bradley(name is Bradley on Yahoo) seen your question with the same quote on Yahoo Answers...
Nice to see you answered your own question NOT ONCE but TWICE! WIth differet names! It was quoted from above in your first reply of this thread...LMAO...
Agenda here guys. ----cough make Libertarians look bad----

Sorry but we DO NOT all worship her every thought!
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Old 03-31-2012, 09:41 AM
 
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Ayn Rands ideas much like those of Karl Marx simply dont work or make sense in the real world with real human nature.
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Old 03-31-2012, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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We had that once. The result was that no regulations allowed factories to dump untreated waste and dangerous chemicals into the water and air; it allowed bosses to exploit works; it allowed children to work in factories instead of going to school; -- In short, it allowed the worst abuses by those with power against those without power.

Having no government regulation means that the individual can do anything in their interest regardless of how it affects the public as a whole. Me dumping my garbage in the public street makes sense to me because it obviates the cost of trash collection but it puts the cost onto my neighbors to remove it. That's why we passed laws that forbid these practices and we are better of because of it.

^^^^^^^^^^^^What he said!
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Old 03-31-2012, 10:34 AM
 
Location: USA - midwest
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Thumbs down Do you agree with this Ayn Rand qoute???

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"No government except the police, courts of law, and the armed services.No regulation of anything by any government.
No Medicare or Medicaid.No Social Security.No public schools.No public hospitals.No public anything, in fact. Just individuals, each looking out for himself, not asking for help or giving help to anyone."

Of course not. No sane individual would. That would leave even murder unregulated. Back to the caveman days. Brilliant.
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Old 03-31-2012, 10:46 AM
 
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I don't agree with it.

It isn't the way things are. It isn't natural. It isn't the way humans work.
...it's not even the way the animal kingdom works.
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