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They have the oppurtunity to not have a child when they decide to pull down their pants.
Do you really believe that this is a good argument? Because if you do, then you must also believe that all our laws shoud be overturned and we should have an anarchist society.
History has also shown humanity that people ARE going to have sex. There is absolutely nothing you can do that will make such a basic urge go away. Given that reality, the question really is how do we deal with that? Telling 19 year old kids not to have sex is wasted energy.
Banning abortion would cause more women to die as a result of alternatives to clean, clinic-performed abortions by medical professionals. Having abortions would not stop.
1. There's no such thing as something being "wrong for" one person but not another (I understand that some people use this phrase to indicate that some choices are better suited for some people than for others; that doesn't affect the morality of any particular case, however). If something's justified, it's justified. If it's wrong, it's wrong.
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Sure there is. I have no interest in guns, hunting or fishing. I think it would be wrong for me to have guns in my house. Other people feel unsafe without one. Owning a gun would be wrong for me, but not for somebody else. I find the idea of hunting or fishing distasteful. Other people think it is justified. I think it is wrong. (BTW, I would never impose my views on a fisherman or hunter.)
[quote=Vic 2.0;23717560]My action? When did I do any of this?
I'm sorry, I guess I assumed you were republican and vote against a NHS or public health option. I assumed you would vote against allowing pre existing medical coverage like most republican representatives are doing as we speak.
If I'm wrong I apologize.
It's nice to see you back health care for everyone. I was addressing the pro lifers that have no problem being pro death when it comes to people outside ones womb.
If you are truly pro life and always take a pro life stance in all areas then you are not a hypocrite. You are a rare find and it's nice to see. You are the only one who answered this. Usually no pro lifers step up when I ask why they don't support other pro life measures.
Banning abortion would cause more women to die as a result of alternatives to clean, clinic-performed abortions by medical professionals. Having abortions would not stop.
But Anti-choicers don't care if women die, they love the idea that the woman will be punished for having the sex they wish they had!
AND, remember, that wealthy women will have no problem getting abortions whether they're legal or not so it is a bully attack on poor women.
Using this logic - the police should not hunt down serial killers - after all those who believe that the serial killers shouldn't kill people should "confine what they believe to their own lives".
Certainly hope your obtuseness is deliberate....
Not going to waste my time responding to specious arguments...
They have the oppurtunity to not have a child when they decide to pull down their pants.
Do you really believe that this is a good argument? Because if you do, then you must also believe that all our laws shoud be overturned and we should have an anarchist society.
My point to you is that people are going to live their lives how they want to live it and there is nothing you or the people like you can do about it. Everyone is not like you and that is something that you HAVE to accept weather you like it or not.
Sure there is. I have no interest in guns, hunting or fishing. I think it would be wrong for me to have guns in my house. Other people feel unsafe without one. Owning a gun would be wrong for me, but not for somebody else. I find the idea of hunting or fishing distasteful. Other people think it is justified. I think it is wrong. (BTW, I would never impose my views on a fisherman or hunter.)
I'm not talking about the fact that something can be the right decision in one situation and the wrong one in another. That's an entirely different conversation.
I'm saying that in any specific event, a particular behavior is either justifiable or wrong. Equating morality with the subjective opinions of it sets us up to believe that there is no such thing as right or wrong, because surely every wrong behavior has at least one person to support it. They could argue that "X may be wrong for you, but it's right for me" no matter how horrible the misdeed, and you would have no way to argue.
Using this logic - the police should not hunt down serial killers - after all those who believe that the serial killers shouldn't kill people should "confine what they believe to their own lives".
Your thinking is so profoundly wrong because an unborn baby is so far from the same as people who are murdered. You are in sore need to wake up and realize how severely wrong you are.
(to Harrier) Your thinking is so profoundly wrong because an unborn baby is so far from the same as people who are murdered. You are in sore need to wake up and realize how severely wrong you are.
His point was that if you can suggest that one person keep their beliefs on right and wrong to themselves, there is hypocrisy in ever telling someone else they are wrong. And he's correct on that. Either people have the right to speak out against things they disagree with, or they don't. You shouldn't pick and choose which opinions should be silenced and which should be heard.
And what is it, exactly, that makes murdering a person who has been born different from killing someone who hasn't?
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