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As recently as 4 years ago, Republicans were still proposing the idea of the INDIVIDUAL MANDATE (see Romney & Gingrich). This isn't some Democrat's brainchild that they managed to convince Republicans to support. It's a Republican brainchild that they convinced Democrats to support.
The mandate was the alternative to the Democrat proposal of a CORPORATE MANDATE ie every company had to provide their employees w/ coverage. They rejected current ideas like allowing interstate insurance in favor of the IM b/c it was the best market-friendly alternative to the Democrat proposal.
Now, they're up in arms, rejecting what 10 years they proposed as the BEST market-based way to fix healthcare in this country. Why? B/c it was a Democrat that got it through. So what does that mean for you Conservatives?
It means that they are fighting tooth & nail to undo, what in their eyes, is the best way to fix healthcare using a market-based approach in order to rob a Democrat of a talking point. They are putting politics ahead of your right to get affordable care.
What else does it mean? That if the IM gets struck down, insurance companies are in for a world of hurt. The mandate was their pill to swallow to help control THEIR expenses for being forced to cover things like preexisting conditions. If it gets struck down, insurance companies are still on the hook for the provisions in HC reform, but w/o the individual mandate, who's going to wind up paying for it?
US! So while you're rallying up to rah-rah removing the IM ( which won't dismantle HC reform by a long shot btw...), you're also cheering on being robbed of what your party thought was the BEST solution to fix HC in favor of what they know are crappy alternatives! And then those of us who are insured get to look forward to our premiums going up! Whoopee!
The only good thing that's going to come out of this if the IM gets repealed is that once people see how crappy the HC reform is w/o IM, we're going to be on the fast track to real Progressive HC reform.
To be fair, we ALL get snookered by our own political parties.
But to your point, the Republicans seem to take an almost perverse enjoyment in getting fooled.
Just two years ago, they were on the warpath and vowing that they'd have no more lukewarm conservatives at the top of their party. They were gonna run out all the jellyfish and put some "real conservatives" in power. The Tea Party looked to be quite serious about it.
Now look at them. Hell, in Nevada, where the Tea Partiers went bonkers enough to nominate Sharon Angle for U.S. Senate in the last congressional election, Mitt Romney won the primary. That's how long it took them to get soft again.
Moreover, they're about to anoint Mitt Romney as their nominee. Granted, he has a good shot of winning, but i thought it was all about running the liberals out of the party just a few years ago....now they're going to nominate one for president. Of course, once he gets elected, all of this conservative grandstanding will come to a screeching halt and he'll be the lukewarm Republican he's always been.
Worse part is, they KNOW this, but they're gonna nominate him anyway because they can't help themselves.
Truth be told, the Republicans don't even believe in all of that small government crap they spew. They know it. Hell, the whole world does. But it does sound appealing to the myrmidons in the party for the purposes of winning elections. Their track record gives them away though.
Feels pretty good actually. Republicans weren't successful with vast government overreach. And now Democrats are about to get the Mother of All Slapdowns.
Republicans had a foolish idea. But Democrats get to wear the Dunce Hat Of Shame™ for the rest of History.
As recently as 4 years ago, Republicans were still proposing the idea of the INDIVIDUAL MANDATE (see Romney & Gingrich). This isn't some Democrat's brainchild that they managed to convince Republicans to support. It's a Republican brainchild that they convinced Democrats to support.
The mandate was the alternative to the Democrat proposal of a CORPORATE MANDATE ie every company had to provide their employees w/ coverage. They rejected current ideas like allowing interstate insurance in favor of the IM b/c it was the best market-friendly alternative to the Democrat proposal.
Now, they're up in arms, rejecting what 10 years they proposed as the BEST market-based way to fix healthcare in this country. Why? B/c it was a Democrat that got it through. So what does that mean for you Conservatives?
It means that they are fighting tooth & nail to undo, what in their eyes, is the best way to fix healthcare using a market-based approach in order to rob a Democrat of a talking point. They are putting politics ahead of your right to get affordable care
What else does it mean? That if the IM gets struck down, insurance companies are in for a world of hurt. The mandate was their pill to swallow to help control THEIR expenses for being forced to cover things like preexisting conditions. If it gets struck down, insurance companies are still on the hook for the provisions in HC reform, but w/o the individual mandate, who's going to wind up paying for it?
US! So while you're rallying up to rah-rah removing the IM ( which won't dismantle HC reform by a long shot btw...), you're also cheering on being robbed of what your party thought was the BEST solution to fix HC in favor of what they know are crappy alternatives! And then those of us who are insured get to look forward to our premiums going up! Whoopee!
The only good thing that's going to come out of this if the IM gets repealed is that once people see how crappy the HC reform is w/o IM, we're going to be on the fast track to real Progressive HC reform.
Among the GOP base, there is constant harping about somebody else, some "other," who is deliberately, assiduously and with malice aforethought subverting the Good, the True and the Beautiful: Subversives. Commies. Socialists. *******s. Secular humanists. Blacks. ****. Feminazis. The list may change with the political needs of the moment, but they always seem to need a scapegoat to hate and fear.
repigs just want the credit for every good
piece of legislation even if they have to
filibuster the other party to death until
they get the majority to pass the same
legislation. that's just how fake they are
in this day and age.
If, as the article says, the Republican Party has genuinely begun to resemble an "Apocolyptic Cult," then that could be the influence of the extreme religion on the party, since there is this whole end-of-the-world-to-be-reborn-Jesus-returning or Armegeddon or whatever. Frankly, I think most religions seem like endoftheworld cults, as certainly small cults have been.
I resent that I cannot vote for a Republican because there aren't any moderates and the person is obligated to the national party. I would have voted for Jon Huntsman, and so would have many Independents and some Democrats, too.
Feels pretty good actually. Republicans weren't successful with vast government overreach. And now Democrats are about to get the Mother of All Slapdowns.
Republicans had a foolish idea. But Democrats get to wear the Dunce Hat Of Shameâ„¢ for the rest of History.
I'm feeling pretty darn refreshed right now
Probably because you didn't understand Eddie's post...
Probably because you didn't understand Eddie's post...
Oh I understood just fine. So fine, in fact, I believe that Eddie is so far off the mark that it's funny.
If the individual mandate is struck down, then the rest of the bill will be repealed by Congress unless structural fixes are put in place to protect insurance companies from the pre-existing condition mandate. No one in their right mind believes that the Affordable Care Act will stand on its own without additional legislative correction, or outright repeal.
Eddie's points are all emotion and very little fact.
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), you're also cheering on being robbed of what your party thought was the BEST solution to fix HC in favor of what they know are crappy alternatives! And then those of us who are insured get to look forward to our premiums going up! Whoopee!
