Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 03-31-2012, 12:07 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
10,581 posts, read 9,785,325 times
Reputation: 4174

Advertisements

This downward trend corresponds closely to the degree to which Junk Science (that is, "science" unsupported by unbiased research and evidence) has invaded the realm of real science.

The desperate attempts by leftists to support their foolish, ivory-tower theories (man-caused climate change, "danger" from food additives that only harm you if you drink 1,000 cans of soda per day, socialism, horror at genetically-modified foods, fear of foods decontaminated of organisms by radiation, etc.) has resulted in drastic contamination of science by charlatans, demagogues, and other agenda-pushers. And yes, a reduction in the trust of what those leftists still call "science", by more normal people.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 03-31-2012, 12:10 PM
 
30,065 posts, read 18,670,668 times
Reputation: 20886
Quote:
Originally Posted by jojajn View Post
I have a problem with fruit bearing trees appearing before the sun. And that is just the first page of the bible!

BTW, when you are computing your complex math problems, you might not want to use the bible as your source of Pi.

1 Kings 7:23

- The number Pi in the Bible -

I expected such responses. Keep in mind that the Bible is full of allegories. Only a fool takes the interpretation of the Bible literally.

The most intelligent professors I knew in physics (two of which were very famous) both were Christians who felt as though the study of physics and mathematics strengthened thier belief in God. Perhaps you need to study a little harder, as of course, a cursory understanding of math and physics would lead one to the opposite conclusion.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-31-2012, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Midwest
38,496 posts, read 25,820,712 times
Reputation: 10789
Quote:
Originally Posted by Little-Acorn View Post
This downward trend corresponds closely to the degree to which Junk Science (that is, "science" unsupported by unbiased research and evidence) has invaded the realm of real science.

The desperate attempts by leftists to support their foolish, ivory-tower theories (man-caused climate change, "danger" from food additives that only harm you if you drink 1,000 cans of soda per day, socialism, horror at genetically-modified foods, fear of foods decontaminated of organisms by radiation, etc.) has resulted in drastic contamination of science by charlatans, demagogues, and other agenda-pushers. And yes, a reduction in the trust of what those leftists still call "science", by more normal people.
I see what you mean.

Here is an example of your point.

Quote:
The term "junk science" was popularized by Fox News commentator Steven Milloy, who used it to attack the results of credible scientific research on global warming, ozone depletion, passive smoking and many other topics. The credibility of Milloy's website junkscience.com was questioned by Paul D. Thacker, a writer for The New Republic, in the wake of evidence that Milloy had received funding from Philip Morris, RJR Tobacco, and Exxon Mobil. Thacker also noted that Milloy was receiving almost $100,000 a year in consulting fees from Philip Morris while he criticized the evidence regarding the hazards of second-hand smoke as "junk science". Following the publication of this article the Cato Institute, which had hosted the junkscience.com site, ceased its association with the site and removed Milloy from its list of adjunct scholars.
Junk science - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-31-2012, 12:13 PM
 
Location: NC
9,984 posts, read 10,394,292 times
Reputation: 3086
Quote:
Originally Posted by outbacknv View Post
Like I said, your mind is made up. You're the randomstudent. The fact that I'm unwilling to waste my time doing your research proves nothing.

Enjoy your bias.
Oh so since I am a student it now becomes my job to back up your unsubstantiated claims. Your are right though your unwillingness to do research does in fact prove absolutely nothing regarding your claims.

It is not unreasonable to ask for evidence regarding another person's claims. On the other hand it is entirely unreasonable to refuse to provide evidence to support your own. Thus it is pointless to continue.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-31-2012, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Midwest
38,496 posts, read 25,820,712 times
Reputation: 10789
Quote:
Originally Posted by hawkeye2009 View Post
I expected such responses. Keep in mind that the Bible is full of allegories. Only a fool takes the interpretation of the Bible literally.

The most intelligent professors I knew in physics (two of which were very famous) both were Christians who felt as though the study of physics and mathematics strengthened thier belief in God. Perhaps you need to study a little harder, as of course, a cursory understanding of math and physics would lead one to the opposite conclusion.
Got an example?

Here is mine relating to the bible Pi:

Quote:
The table clearly shows just how far off the mark the biblical figure is compared to the other cultures. Comparing the percentages of error, the ratio in I Kings is three times less accurate than the Indian, eight times less accurate than the Egyptian, nine times less accurate than Babylonian and more than three thousand times less accurate than the Greek figures! So when Mounce insisted that we judge the accuracy of the biblical ratio by the "standards of the time", our judgment is obvious-it is hopelessly inaccurate!
Rejection of Pascal's Wager: Mathematical Errors in the Bible

If you look at the chart supplied in the link, you will see that of all ancient religions and cultures, the biblical Hebrews were the furthermost off of the true value of Pi.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-31-2012, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
22,229 posts, read 17,858,215 times
Reputation: 4585
Quote:
Originally Posted by hawkeye2009 View Post
I expected such responses. Keep in mind that the Bible is full of allegories. Only a fool takes the interpretation of the Bible literally.

The most intelligent professors I knew in physics (two of which were very famous) both were Christians who felt as though the study of physics and mathematics strengthened thier belief in God. Perhaps you need to study a little harder, as of course, a cursory understanding of math and physics would lead one to the opposite conclusion.
Yeah, it's not as if they knew anything about circles back then. Wait, were there crop circles then?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-31-2012, 12:31 PM
 
Location: MW
1,440 posts, read 1,170,159 times
Reputation: 549
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fiyero View Post
Computers, Internet, Earthquakes, Tornadoes, Hurricanes, Germs, Diseases, Atoms, Antibiotics, Solar effects, planetary motion, electricity, gravity, automobiles, aerodynamics, rocket propulsion, electromagnetism, medicine, etc. etc. etc.

Are none of those important? Just about everything related to your daily life has some element of science involved in it.
Exactly. Look how many years this took to accumulate.

Do you really think science has explained everything? Which was my point...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-31-2012, 12:34 PM
 
13,186 posts, read 14,980,467 times
Reputation: 4555
Quote:
Originally Posted by hawkeye2009 View Post
I expected such responses. Keep in mind that the Bible is full of allegories. Only a fool takes the interpretation of the Bible literally.

The most intelligent professors I knew in physics (two of which were very famous) both were Christians who felt as though the study of physics and mathematics strengthened thier belief in God. Perhaps you need to study a little harder, as of course, a cursory understanding of math and physics would lead one to the opposite conclusion.
Oh because two professors YOU KNOW believe in God and feel that math/physics support that belief that must mean if one studies "hard" and understands math/physics that should lead them to believe in GOD likewise.......Sure!.....LOL

That's about the most foolish thing I've read all week....LOL

Chew on this Bible beaters and start tap dancing.

The National Academy of Science charted belief in God as low as 5.5 percent among biologists and 7.5 percent among physicist and astronomers in a 1998 study.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-31-2012, 12:56 PM
 
13,053 posts, read 12,953,537 times
Reputation: 2618
I find it rather amusing the number of people that refer to science as if it were some sort of deity rather than simply a detailed process of verification, validation, and replication.

The objection to the issue is that there are people improperly applying the process in order to achieve a certain result.

Science is a process, not a person, a reputation, a consensus or some supernatural being to be lauded over people as infallible. The fact that some people are demanding people accept a given supposition through appeals to authority shows you they have absolutely no concept of what science is.

They have changed the meaning of it like so many other words and concepts. It really is a disgrace and a severe failure of our current and future generations as we have succeeded in devolving the intellectual nature of our society.

Last edited by Nomander; 03-31-2012 at 01:38 PM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-31-2012, 01:04 PM
 
20,948 posts, read 19,054,479 times
Reputation: 10270
Quote:
Originally Posted by AnUnidentifiedMale View Post
Study: Conservatives' Trust of Science Hits All Time Low - chicagotribune.com

Have there been any scientific discoveries in the last 40 years that conservatives have agreed with? Or is all knowledge considered suspicious?
Because the "data" on "global warming, aka. global climate change" was proven to be falsified, only to push an agenda?

Because WE believe that a baby is human, even in the womb? This is simply proven by that new invention called an ultrasound. It is further proven by the fact that surgeons actually perform what's called....are you ready for this....prenatal surgery! They actually use the same techniques used on humans! How is THAT possible if it's not human!?

Funny how lefties believe in science as long as it presses their agenda.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:50 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top