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Old 04-04-2012, 01:27 PM
 
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at least the government is ELECTED by the people and it's main duty is the represent the people (though that doesn't always happen) and their main purpose is to help fix societal problems and help guide society. (and it doesn't always do this) but at least its the SETUP PURPOSE of the govenrment.

corporations answer TO THEMSELVES and the people DO NOT ELECT them and their sole purpose is SIMPLY to make money.. their PURPOSE has NOTHING TO DO with bettering society... sure they create jobs, but that's a BYPRODUCT of the whole making money thing.. it's not their purpose.

also, corporations already practically RUN a good portion of the government (you know that evil thing to be paranoid of)

why are people paranoid of the government but NOT CORPORATIONS?

makes no sense.
So you really still believe "the people" elect the representatives and not the corporate interests who buy them with campaign contributions?

Corporations answer to their shareholders.

An ethical government filled with men and women of good character could not be corrupted by corporations. Elected officials in general are greedy, love the power, position and perks derived from being part of the "political elite" and as thus, are easily "bought".
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Old 04-04-2012, 01:27 PM
 
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I see the OP premise here flawed. Govt and Corp are the same thing under our system. I don't see paranoia either. Certainly questioning and mistrust.
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Old 04-04-2012, 01:29 PM
 
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I'll agree that a single payer national health care system would really set this
country free, that's for sure. Especially for small business.
How does single payer with the government as the ultimate say in provision of the services "set this country free" rather than inslave individuals to the government from womb to grave?
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Old 04-04-2012, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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So you really still believe "the people" elect the representatives and not the corporate interests who buy them with campaign contributions?
But, according to the Supreme Court you must believe in, what you must use to buy is... "speech".
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Old 04-04-2012, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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Corporations can't force me to do anything or buy anything. The government can.
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Old 04-04-2012, 01:36 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Because you can choose to refuse to do business with a corporation, but you can't refuse to do business with the government.
How do you choose to NOT do business with Big Oil unless you're living totally off the grid?

And good luck choosing NOT to do business with Big Pharma when you're told you need one of their products to live.
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Old 04-04-2012, 01:38 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Corporations can't force me to do anything or buy anything. The government can.
Sure, the government owned by corporations. Or do you still believe the 'by and for the people' myth?
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Old 04-04-2012, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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this whole thing about choosing to give money to corporations in a myth

you give a lot of money to corporations beyond buying products via government contracts. in many cities, corporations handle the public water and/or sewer systems, plus of course electricity and natural gas.

today, most of our tax dollars are funneled to huge corporations. it is not right to inherently trust these corporations -- they aren't competing for your dollar like a fast food place.
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Old 04-04-2012, 01:49 PM
 
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When the elected members of congress do not follow orders (the constitution), they are therefore invalid in my opinion and resistance to their unlawful power is necessitated.

As for corporations, they have bought & sold our politicians via special interest groups.

They are both out of control.
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Old 04-04-2012, 01:52 PM
 
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How much separation is there between corporations and governments?
These days? I would say very little.

Which is why if you reduce government power, you reduce corporation power.
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