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I can't believe we have somebody on here who thinks he is an expert on "types" of screams.
I can't believe we have somebody on here that thinks that making the assumption that a kid could see a gun in in another guy's waistband is somehow having a "pre-conceived ideology of a person that carries a concealed weapon."
I'd say you have a leg up on this guy when it comes to
deductive reasoning.:ok:
Prosecutor says no grand jury for Trayvon Martin case - Wire Teens - The Sacramento Bee (http://www.sacbee.com/2012/04/09/4401707/prosecutor-says-no-grand-jury.html - broken link)
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TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- The special prosecutor assigned to investigate the Trayvon Martin case will not be using a grand jury to determine whether to arrest George Zimmerman, her office confirmed Monday.
The former prosecutor on the case, Seminole County State Attorney Norm Wolfinger, had elected to use a grand jury, and had scheduled the group to meet on Tuesday.
Duval County State Attorney Angela Corey told The Miami Herald in an interview last month that she did not expect to need a grand jury, and would likely make the decision on whether or not to charge Zimmerman herself.
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Read more here: Prosecutor says no grand jury for Trayvon Martin case - Wire Teens - The Sacramento Bee (http://www.sacbee.com/2012/04/09/4401707/prosecutor-says-no-grand-jury.html#storylink=cpy - broken link)[/LEFT]
This is just one more example of the abuse of justice in this case. After all the media feeding frenzy and months of attempts by NBC, Sharpton and Jackson to turn this case into something it isn't, now the "special prosector" is deciding that Zimmerman won't get a grand jury to hear his case, she will do so herself. Say what? Do we just suspend civil rights because it is politically expedient to do so? To pander to the mobs?
Regardless of the facts of this case, Zimmerman is pretty well screwed. Even if a jury eventually rules that he acted in self defense and was within his rights, he's been "lynched" by the media and race baiters. It's a sad state in this country when civil rights and the right to a fair trial by an impartial jury are tossed away by a prosecutor to score political points and a "vulture" media to sell editorializing rather than news. Oh, and for "activists" to get rich.
Prosecutor says no grand jury for Trayvon Martin case - Wire Teens - The Sacramento Bee (http://www.sacbee.com/2012/04/09/4401707/prosecutor-says-no-grand-jury.html - broken link)
This is just one more example of the abuse of justice in this case. After all the media feeding frenzy and months of attempts by NBC, Sharpton and Jackson to turn this case into something it isn't, now the "special prosector" is deciding that Zimmerman won't get a grand jury to hear his case, she will do so herself. Say what? Do we just suspend civil rights because it is politically expedient to do so? To pander to the mobs?
Regardless of the facts of this case, Zimmerman is pretty well screwed. Even if a jury eventually rules that he acted in self defense and was within his rights, he's been "lynched" by the media and race baiters. It's a sad state in this country when civil rights and the right to a fair trial by an impartial jury are tossed away by a prosecutor to score political points and a "vulture" media to sell editorializing rather than news. Oh, and for "activists" to get rich.
How is he not getting a fair shake? The prosecutor is said to be very tough and not a grand stander.
Prosecutor says no grand jury for Trayvon Martin case - Wire Teens - The Sacramento Bee (http://www.sacbee.com/2012/04/09/4401707/prosecutor-says-no-grand-jury.html - broken link)
This is just one more example of the abuse of justice in this case. After all the media feeding frenzy and months of attempts by NBC, Sharpton and Jackson to turn this case into something it isn't, now the "special prosector" is deciding that Zimmerman won't get a grand jury to hear his case, she will do so herself. Say what? Do we just suspend civil rights because it is politically expedient to do so? To pander to the mobs?
Regardless of the facts of this case, Zimmerman is pretty well screwed. Even if a jury eventually rules that he acted in self defense and was within his rights, he's been "lynched" by the media and race baiters. It's a sad state in this country when civil rights and the right to a fair trial by an impartial jury are tossed away by a prosecutor to score political points and a "vulture" media to sell editorializing rather than news. Oh, and for "activists" to get rich.
wow what a bunch of AM radio dittohead psychobabble talk...
Actually, Trayvon's father told police that the screams were not his son's.....but that was before Jesse and Big Al got involved and encouraged him to come to a different conclusion....one that may be "more beneficial" to him financially down the road.....
Zimmerman knew he was in deep doo-doo almost immediately. He LIED about who was calling for help. Experts have already said so on TV but you can be rest assured the FBI had their own experts analyze that tape.
Here's my issue with the tapes:
1) There is a scenario where TM screaming makes sense, and that is during the verbal altercation, TM noticed the gun. GZ reached, maybe for his phone or maybe for his gun, but TM thought it was for the gun and attacked him knowing he couldn't out run a bullet and was trying to disable GZ before he was able to get his gun out. TM may have been screaming for help while wrestling for the gun, knowing that if GZ got to it he was in big trouble.
2) It would be pretty brave for GZ to lie about him being the one yelling for help. At that time, he had no idea who saw what, and he was surrounded by houses. That's a pretty big gamble to bet that no one saw who was screaming.
3) On the info for the voice experts they say that even if you disguise your voice, the can still tell it's you because of certain characteristics including nasal passages. If you had a broken nose/swallowing blood, could that not skew the results? And why has there been no release on a comparison to TM? If they had a match to TM, that would be the smoking gun. Seems like if they have compared it, that the results were inconclusive.
4) Has it ever occurred to anyone that perhaps BOTH of them are screaming on the tape?
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No Grand Jury for Zimmerman
