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Old 04-06-2012, 04:40 PM
 
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but, even as ridiculous as the death threat scenario sounds to me, this claim also requires that the clintons were ( and still are ) the ONLY one's privy to the ineligibility information ( i haven't watched the interview but as far as i know viviano never says why obama is ineligible ).
Yes she does. She says that when Bill Clinton said that Obama wasn't qualified he winked!
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Old 04-06-2012, 04:58 PM
 
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but, even as ridiculous as the death threat scenario sounds to me, this claim also requires that the clintons were ( and still are ) the ONLY one's privy to the ineligibility information ( i haven't watched the interview but as far as i know viviano never says why obama is ineligible ).
What she said was that the Clintons were the ones who originally floated out the eligibility issue and that the assassination of Arkansas Democratic Party Chairman in August 2008 was a "message" to the Clintons to keep their mouths shut. Gwatney was murdered a couple of weeks before the 2008 Democratic National Convention.

Bill Gwatney - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

With a lifetime in politics, the Clintons have built a powerful and complex political machine and I have little doubt they can find out anything they want to know. I also have little doubt that we, the public, know maybe only 10% of what actually goes on behind the scenes in the halls of power in the world.
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Old 04-06-2012, 05:00 PM
 
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If you're running for the office of President, nothing should be off limits and sealed.
then start working your congressman to change the constitution.

but i'm not sure you'd want a president who had no objection to people digging thru his/her mother's gynecological exams ( yes, birthers have asked for that ).
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Old 04-06-2012, 05:01 PM
 
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Old 04-06-2012, 05:59 PM
 
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What she said was that the Clintons were the ones who originally floated out the eligibility issue....
right off the bat this statement of viviano's is wrong. according to the WND article viviano claims the clintons' statements came in "spring 2008". even if it were on the first day of spring it is still predated by the original birther claims by almost a month:

Barackryphal: The Secret Origin of the Birthers

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.... and that the assassination of Arkansas Democratic Party Chairman in August 2008 was a "message" to the Clintons to keep their mouths shut. Gwatney was murdered a couple of weeks before the 2008 Democratic National Convention.
yes, bill gwanty was shot and killed by timothy dale johnson, a man who appears to have been in the middle of a complete mental breakdown. he quit his job earlier in the day at target after some erratic behavior and the store called the cops to keep johnson away for fear of retribution.

Timothy Dale Johnson | Gunman had just quit job - Los Angeles Times

to somehow link johnson as an assassin working for obama is even a stretch for the most hardcore MK-ultra conspiracy theorist.

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With a lifetime in politics, the Clintons have built a powerful and complex political machine and I have little doubt they can find out anything they want to know.
no arguments there.

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I also have little doubt that we, the public, know maybe only 10% of what actually goes on behind the scenes in the halls of power in the world.
also agreed. but i just don't automatically accept assassination threats as a motivating factor when they contradict logic and reason.
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Old 04-06-2012, 06:12 PM
 
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karl rove seems to think you're helping obama, sity:

“Within our party, we’ve got to be very careful about allowing these people who are the birthers and the 9/11-deniers to get too high a profile and say too much without setting the record straight,†Rove said Wednesday night on Fox News.
“We need the leaders of our party to say, ‘Look, stop falling into the trap of the White House and focus on the real issues,’â€

Karl Rove: Birther rumors discredit GOP - Jennifer Epstein - POLITICO.com
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Old 04-06-2012, 06:46 PM
 
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Houseplants that can type.
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Old 04-06-2012, 06:50 PM
 
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Houseplants that can type.
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Old 04-06-2012, 06:50 PM
 
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"New sheriff wants obamas records rounded up"

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Old 04-06-2012, 07:13 PM
 
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right off the bat this statement of viviano's is wrong. according to the WND article viviano claims the clintons' statements came in "spring 2008". even if it were on the first day of spring it is still predated by the original birther claims by almost a month:

Barackryphal: The Secret Origin of the Birthers
Well I don't think that makes it "wrong" necessarily. Maybe she means among the first. Either way, it seems she is simply stating her view and what she knows. I am not sure what vid that excerpt is from.

Regarding the fear thing. There are some very powerful people and some very interesting ways to get rid of people, so I don't find it hard to believe someone would be concerned if threatened by the right people, especially when your family is threatened.
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