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Old 04-07-2012, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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I saw that list, but I don't automatically presume they're not as good an American as I am. Why do you? Does an organization, or a person, have to be the "right" kind of American to qualify?

In any case, why should it matter if you're on the same page with them?
I would think that you failed to see many of those groups, just a few of the first ones.

I would also say that you must have missed the fact that they are paying for the training sessions for leaders of this year's Occupy movement. 100,000 seems to me to be enough to do quite a job in 50 large cities and some smaller ones, but then I don't think in the numbers of leaders the 99% organization does.
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Old 04-07-2012, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Wartrace,TN
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Useful idiots being manipulated by a particular political party JUST LIKE the useful idiots of the "tea party". Both groups of useful idiots will vote for the political party that is manipulating them and thereby maintain the status quo.

Look at the so called "Tea Party"- they did nothing but put republicans in office. Those republicans pretended they were going to "cut spending" and restore fiscal responsibility in government. Since their election spending has INCREASED. Idiots.

Now, this "Arab spring" thing is just going to be used as a tool by the democrats to "rally the idiots" into supporting them this fall. While they demonize wall street and corporate interests their puppet masters will be collecting campaign cash from those very same entities.

Until we get rid of the republican/democrat power sharing this country is screwed. If you keep on voting for the same political party over and over expecting different results you are freaking insane.....
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Old 04-07-2012, 01:19 PM
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Links? And just because general unemployment is low, unemployment rates for graduates in the field could much higher.
Broken down into recent graduates, experienced, and those with graduate degrees:

http://www9.georgetown.edu/grad/gppi...al.update1.pdf
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Old 04-07-2012, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Oh, please. Do you really think organization and leadership training is unique to the left? What podunk place have you lived in all your life?
Show me something like that 99% ad where the numbers are as large as what they think they are going to have. I fail to see anything from the other side that suggests that they will meet anywhere they can to train their leaders. Please look at that ad one more time.

MoveOn.org Civic Action
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Old 04-07-2012, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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You're wrong. I work for an engineering company. In 2009 we hired around 15 engineering interns. I recruited them. I had hundreds of applications. I had kids calling all the time (the ones not selected) begging for jobs. Some of them are still unemployed. Bush and the whole trickle down bs and de-regulation tanked the economy. We had a friccin surplus in 2000 that we would still have, and would be massively paying down our national debt if Bush had left the taxes alone. He totally miscaculated and blew it. I remember the warnings from many other politicians telling him not to do it. He didn't listen. He was a moron.
You don't really understand that the laws called the Bush tax cuts weren't passed by him, do you? He didn't achieve things like that through Executive Orders, but the Congress did pass the cuts with many Democrats voting for them. Why haven't they been done away with yet. Oh yeah, Obama didn't want them to die at the assigned time because it may have caused him to lose some votes.

Why is it that everything is always Bush's fault? He has been gone for nearly 36 months and you people are still blaming him for everything.
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Old 04-07-2012, 01:27 PM
 
Location: USA
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Broken down into recent graduates, experienced, and those with graduate degrees:

http://www9.georgetown.edu/grad/gppi...al.update1.pdf
Thanks for the links. I still fail to see how the current unemployment rates are the fault of recent graduates. How are 23-25 year olds responsible for the current state of the economy? How were they to predict our current situation?

What if the job prospects shift again in the next 2-3 years? Which direction will our economy be heading in 2015?

Do you see the point that I'm making?
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Old 04-07-2012, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Could be. Still an assumption though. If your trying to make a case that the officer followed his policy, provide some evidence. I'll retract my statement.
What evidence do I need exactly? What he did was SOP for law enforcement agencies even the military when dealing with protesters around military bases. The guy getting suspended with pay was just letting him take a vacation till things blow over.
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Old 04-07-2012, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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From the website...

"We're at a crossroads as a country. In recent years, millions have lost their jobs, homes have been foreclosed, and an unconscionable number of children live in poverty. We have to stand up to the people who caused of all this and confront the rampant greed and deliberate manipulation of our democracy and our economy by a tiny minority in the 1%.

Inspired by Occupy Wall Street and the fight for workers in Madison, Wisconsin, the 99% will rise up this spring. In the span of just one week, from April 9-15, 100,000 people will be trained to tell the story of what happened to our economy, learn the history of non-violent direct action, and use that knowledge to take action on our own campaigns to win change"
Those surely are high sounding words, but what more could we expect? They will be singing a different tune when their minions get out of control because they aroused them hoping they would riot. Open your eyes and try to think something other than revolutionary, get even thoughts.
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Old 04-07-2012, 01:28 PM
 
Location: USA
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Show me something like that 99% ad where the numbers are as large as what they think they are going to have. I fail to see anything from the other side that suggests that they will meet anywhere they can to train their leaders. Please look at that ad one more time.

MoveOn.org Civic Action
What point are you making? Is their action illegal? Democrats and Republicans have been organizing and training citizens for years.
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Old 04-07-2012, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Yes, which is why I'm against the protesters showing up armed. That's been my argument in this thread. We agree on that.


As far as Obama, he's clearly not working WITH the protesters because of the NDAA and some of the other laws that have been passed where he can label protesters as "terrorists" and hold them indefinitely.

If believe Obama fears the protesters too.
I believe he wants to use them so will be glad to see them riot. I am sorry but when he threw all that support at them last year I saw something coming that you haven't seen yet.
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