Female Homeless Veteran: Hard Times Or A Lifetime Of Bad Decisions? (unemployed, ethical)
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I first suggestion to this person is to find and join AA. That program has helped countless folks addicted to alcohol. It seems to work for some.
I believe we all owe our Veterans for the damage, physical and psychological; they suffered as a result of their self incarceration in our military services. Avoiding these costs is just as self serving as a company dumping waste in a river for free. We are dumping our injured out into the world just to save money so our Wars are cheaper.
I first suggestion to this person is to find and join AA. That program has helped countless folks addicted to alcohol. It seems to work for some.
I believe we all owe our Veterans for the damage, physical and psychological; they suffered as a result of their self incarceration in our military services. Avoiding these costs is just as self serving as a company dumping waste in a river for free. We are dumping our injured out into the world just to save money so our Wars are cheaper.
Better we subsidize the losers than the looters. All the homeless Veterans, and possibly all the rest, could be housed in foreclosed homes for less than we waste on mercenaries in our Forever War. It is not the money we spend it is how we spend it that is important.
What annoys me is holier than thou attitude of your obviously superior (luckier) inhumane people have toward the down and out. I can only surmise that these people should simply disappear so you would never be reminded that your crooked casino called our economy culls far more then it rewards.
Yes, I would support all the homeless people, including Veterans, and let the damned petroleum companies pay for their own damned armies. I am tired of having these rich thieves sponging off me and all the other not so wealthy taxpayers and fuel consumers.
Way to go Greg. Bring the troops home and use that saved money to take care of entitlements here. Thanks for spreading the exact same message Ron Paul has ran on since 2007.
Way to go Greg. Bring the troops home and use that saved money to take care of entitlements here. Thanks for spreading the exact same message Ron Paul has ran on since 2007.
There is no such thing as "saved money" when the money used to fight those wars is borrowed.
Barack Obama has propagandized you folks so effectively that he actually has you believing that reducing a line item in the federal budget (that doesn't exist) is actually saving money for other programs.
Using a credit card to save money is about as ass backwards as fiscal policy can possibly get.
Don't fall for that crap. Obama already thinks you're stupid as it is......don't prove him right.
The difference here is that you are responsible enough to make good decisions to get yourself back on the right path. I applaud you.
*Some* times the people having issues are suffering from mental illness and what seems like controllables, really aren't.
I used to more rigidly think like you until one of my favorite people in the world...a high achiever, valedictorian etc etc etc.....developed schizophrenia.
It eventually claimed his life. But for the grace of god go I.
More women vets are homeless, but housing scarce | Washington Examiner (http://washingtonexaminer.com/entertainment/health/2012/04/more-women-vets-are-homeless-housing-scarce/460846 - broken link)
How in the world do you go from a well-trained, well-qualified aircraft technician to a homeless veteran?
Well, let's analyze the uncontrollables:
1) She was laid off from her job. Undoubtedly this was a big blow to her lifestyle and her means of survival.
2) She's a diabetic and requires insulin.
That's where sympathy should come to a screeching halt, in my opinion.
Now lets analyze the controllables:
1) She left the military, undoubtedly the most stable job a person can have. It was her decision, no harm, no foul. But was it a good decision?
2) She lost custody of her daughter. Although we don't know why, it's pretty clear that a woman has to screw up pretty badly to lose custody of her own child. It is not uncommon for the male to lose custody, but the mother? There's more to this woman than meets the eye.
3) She's an alcoholic who continues to "grapple" with alcohol abuse. The article attributes this to her "heavy drinking days" in the Navy. Whose fault is that?
4) She lived in her car, but her car was wrecked by a "friends boyfriend." What kind of person lets a mere acquaintance take their car for a spin if that's the only means for shelter? Whose fault is this?
While I am sympathetic to the world of homeless people and homeless veterans, I am NOT sympathetic to the the plight of people whose lives are riddled with poor decisions.
How far should society and taxpayers be willing to go in continuing to subsidize bad life decisions? Where will we draw the line?
I am curious, why do you care one way or the other about this womans situation? Is it simply that a few pennies of your tax dollars go to help her and other people that need help?
There is no such thing as "saved money" when the money used to fight those wars is borrowed.
Barack Obama has propagandized you folks so effectively that he actually has you believing that reducing a line item in the federal budget (that doesn't exist) is actually saving money for other programs.
Using a credit card to save money is about as ass backwards as fiscal policy can possibly get.
Don't fall for that crap. Obama already thinks you're stupid as it is......don't prove him right.
You missed the point or responded to the wrong post. dunno.
Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate that has a budget with actual cuts. Not a decrease from the increase but a cut. The saved money comes from cutting the military industrial complex which would also strengthen our defense. Nothing to do with Obama.
The programs are there, they are paid for, she decided not to use them. You are taught from day 1 in the military about most all programs that the military has, Drug and Alcohol is beat into your head almost on a daily basis.
It was her decision, nothing I or anyone else can do about it now. Those programs are still there for her to use, she is a Vet, she can go to any VA hospital/clinic and be admitted.
You have to want to help yourself before you will accept the help that is there waiting.
More women vets are homeless, but housing scarce | Washington Examiner (http://washingtonexaminer.com/entertainment/health/2012/04/more-women-vets-are-homeless-housing-scarce/460846 - broken link)
How in the world do you go from a well-trained, well-qualified aircraft technician to a homeless veteran?
Well, let's analyze the uncontrollables:
1) She was laid off from her job. Undoubtedly this was a big blow to her lifestyle and her means of survival.
2) She's a diabetic and requires insulin.
That's where sympathy should come to a screeching halt, in my opinion.
Now lets analyze the controllables:
1) She left the military, undoubtedly the most stable job a person can have. It was her decision, no harm, no foul. But was it a good decision?
2) She lost custody of her daughter. Although we don't know why, it's pretty clear that a woman has to screw up pretty badly to lose custody of her own child. It is not uncommon for the male to lose custody, but the mother? There's more to this woman than meets the eye.
3) She's an alcoholic who continues to "grapple" with alcohol abuse. The article attributes this to her "heavy drinking days" in the Navy. Whose fault is that?
4) She lived in her car, but her car was wrecked by a "friends boyfriend." What kind of person lets a mere acquaintance take their car for a spin if that's the only means for shelter? Whose fault is this?
While I am sympathetic to the world of homeless people and homeless veterans, I am NOT sympathetic to the the plight of people whose lives are riddled with poor decisions.
How far should society and taxpayers be willing to go in continuing to subsidize bad life decisions? Where will we draw the line?
The problem is that bad decisions are often the result of bad luck. You can't sit on your high horse and condemn her for her drinking when she was laid off and diabetic. It still was her free decision to drink, but does the fact that she was laid off and/or faced other tragedies in her life really have no influence on her culpability for her bad decisions? Certainly we should at least be sympathetic to her.
Also, if she came from a wealthier background, her problems would probably not be as grave as they are now.
The military has a reputation for a lot of heavy drinking. I wouldn't say it's the "cause", but it may be where it all started.
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