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In this case, nice lady, he jumped in just as he does so often and didn't read your post well enough to see what you said. I am pretty stupid but I read your words and saw just what you are saying now.
I am curious as to why the Clinton's do not take the heat for drumming up the birther issue in the first place......just sayin.
Originally Posted by Cunucu Beach;23796610[COLOR=Blue
Not so. I never even defined "native son". I said that Hawaiians embrace him as their "native son". Some Kenyans do the same thing because his father was Kenyan. [/color]
You are only speculating as to what might have happened had there been anyone who knew otherwise--either before or after he was elected. No one can say "what might have been".
Native son means born there. It doesn't mean anything else. You are asserting that it has a broader meaning. That's false.
You are speculating that before the election of Obama that Republican officials in the state who were in a position to know whether Obama was born in Hawaii or not, chose to become part of the conspiracy to hide Obama's birthplace. You first speculated that it was for job security. When that was shown to be untrue, you speculated that it was to avoid becoming social outcasts, because the Hawaiian people per your opinion are so corrupt and jaded, that they would want their elected officials to be a part of a vast conspiracy to hide Obama's true origins just to get someone who lived there for 8 years elected into office. And then you tell me, "No one can say what might have been." Irony, much?
The problem would be the contradiction in your argument.
You believe he WAS born in Hawaii. And yet you believe that the birth certificate that simply affirms he was born in Hawaii to be fraudulent.
The State of Hawaii issues birth certificates for citizens born in Hawaii. Yes?
The State of Hawaii has publicly affirmed that Obama was born in Hawaii. Yes?
So the State of Hawaii could provide Obama with a valid birth certificate. Yes?
So why would a fraudulent birth certificate exist? What would be the reason for the fraud?
It's not a "historian" thing, it a simple logic thing.
Is there a chance that the State of Hawaii will some day show he original certificate? This one is not that at all and can't be a copy since the original has been locked in their safe since the beginning.
Strange not a single birther has responded to this.
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Originally Posted by ovcatto
Ah, Mark J. Bennett, a Republican, was Attorney General from 2003 to 2010 during the administration of two term Republican Governor Linda Lingle who appointed Republican Dr. Chiyome Fukino to head the Hawaii Department of Health. As you should know Dr. Fukino was the custodian of birth records and certified that Obama was indeed born in Hawaii. Now all three were in their final terms of office when this issue arose so would you be so kind as to explain how their "jobs" were on the line?
the first birther lawsuit was filed by phil berg, a clinton supporter but in no way connected to hillary or the campaign.
You don't know he wasnt connected. He might have been in a covert way.
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