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Old 04-10-2012, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Originally Posted by Cunucu Beach View Post
Even when given ample evidence the "flat earthers" (for want of a better term) refuse to consider evidence that the birth certificate that was presented by Obama is a forgery.
Ignoring that you could hardly have actually selected a more stupid term, we have considered every single Birther objection to the certificate. All are wrong, and some are outright lies.

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This doesn't prove he was not born in Hawaii; it only gives further evidence the birth certificate presented was a forgery.
Under US law, the absolute standard for proof is when the State certifies the birth as having taken place there. Hawaii has certified that Obama was born there.

There is no better proof possible.
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Old 04-10-2012, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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I can't make this forged document real no matter how hard I try...
You're off the hook. The State of Hawaii has already done so.
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Old 04-10-2012, 07:53 AM
NCN
 
Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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I can't wait to see what history does with this. The truth will come out some day and many will see what fools they have been to drink the Kool Aid and bury their heads in the sand. You are wasting your time to try and get anyone to see reason. Thanks for trying though.
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Old 04-10-2012, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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It's been proven to be a fake. Obama was taken into custody last night. America is now the world's laughngstock. Congratulations birthers.
Figured i'd make some stuff up, too.
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Old 04-10-2012, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Gone
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I can't wait to see what history does with this. The truth will come out some day and many will see what fools they have been to drink the Kool Aid and bury their heads in the sand. You are wasting your time to try and get anyone to see reason. Thanks for trying though.
The truth is already there for anyone with an operational mind to see, problem is that Birthers lack that particular quality so hence they will never be able to see it.
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Old 04-10-2012, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Montgomery Village
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OMG. The conspiracy the now apparently involves millions of people up to this point with the complete complicit involvement between everyone in the current congress and Supreme court still goes on. It is threads like this that put my faith in God to the test.
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Old 04-10-2012, 08:01 AM
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In 5 years or less it will be a running joke. This battle should have been fought 4 years ago.
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Old 04-10-2012, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Neither here nor there
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Ignoring that you could hardly have actually selected a more stupid term, we have considered every single Birther objection to the certificate. All are wrong, and some are outright lies.


Under US law, the absolute standard for proof is when the State certifies the birth as having taken place there. Hawaii has certified that Obama was born there.

There is no better proof possible.
If you can bring yourself to read and comprehend what I said, you will see that I did not claim that there is anything to prove that Obama was not born in Hawaii. I said there is some compelling evidence that the birth certificate he presented was a forgery and that is the only issue I addressed.
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Old 04-10-2012, 08:08 AM
 
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There isn't a single, credible, document expert who would pronounce something "fake" based on a PDF of a digital photo. None.

Actual, credible, document experts would only rule based on hands-on, in person analysis of the actual document.

The State of Hawaii has certified their actual BC records. THAT is all the proof every State and every Court in the land relies on an no amount of tin foil hattery by the northers will change that.

The man in the white house was born in Hawaii and he is your duly elected President until his term is over.
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Old 04-10-2012, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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If you can bring yourself to read and comprehend what I said, you will see that I did not claim that there is anything to prove that Obama was not born in Hawaii. I said there is some compelling evidence that the birth certificate he presented was a forgery and that is the only issue I addressed.
And if you can bring yourself to stop chasing red herring and comprehend the only genuine issue here, you will see that it does not matter what you claimed.

Obama was born in Hawaii and is therefore a natural born citizen.
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