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Old 04-10-2012, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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Actually in a free country, corporations reserve the right to hire and fire people they like or don't like. The team should be free to fire him if he is bad for business.

My point exactly. Corporations multinational and local. It's about business my boy and it's not about nuthin' else. Whats wrong with just saying the man (or any of the thousands of other people pummeled for something they said) was just speaking their mind?
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Old 04-10-2012, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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Sigh - my post apparently went entirely over your head.
Nope. The history of the area is not the issue. People make it that way and the result is the silence demanded of Mr. Ozzie. Either way, your view is specious. The demand for silence is consistent with fascism. The manager of a baseball team.

First you can't call them the devil rays and now the manager can't love Castro. What a silly thing.
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Old 04-10-2012, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Nope. The history of the area is not the issue. People make it that way and the result is the silence demanded of Mr. Ozzie. Either way, your view is specious. The demand for silence is consistent with fascism. The manager of a baseball team.

First you can't call them the devil rays and now the manager can't love Castro. What a silly thing.
The Rays product improved dramatically once they rebranded themselves and left the devil out of the details.

When your business relies on getting people in the surrounding area to spend their hard earned cash to purchase a piece of paper that allows them to walk into a stadium - the last thing you want to do is alienate them.

This is not a PC issue - it is a matter of history and the Marlins made a business decision.
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Old 04-10-2012, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Florida
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My point exactly. Corporations multinational and local. It's about business my boy and it's not about nuthin' else. Whats wrong with just saying the man (or any of the thousands of other people pummeled for something they said) was just speaking their mind?
Yea, feel free to insult the people who pay your salary, and feel free to insult the citizens of the city you represent. The idea is to have the people of Miami come to the games, as opposed to protesting the team outside the gates.

Get rid of the commie, and the fans might (MIGHT) come to the games again.

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Old 04-10-2012, 07:01 PM
 
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The Marlins are free to do as they wish (though it'd be nice if they'd also stop begging for taxpayer bailouts all the time...), but this case does serve to highlight the absurdities of America's "Cuba policy," which is something that certainly deserves to be discussed.
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Old 04-10-2012, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Florida
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What's he gonna do next? Smoke cigars with Ahmadinejad?
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Old 04-10-2012, 07:11 PM
 
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Well, if he really wants to tweak the US some more, he should meet with Shia opposition figures from Bahrain or Saudi Arabia or other US allies in the mideast...
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Old 04-10-2012, 07:27 PM
 
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Nope. The history of the area is not the issue. People make it that way and the result is the silence demanded of Mr. Ozzie. Either way, your view is specious. The demand for silence is consistent with fascism. The manager of a baseball team.

First you can't call them the devil rays and now the manager can't love Castro. What a silly thing.
Ah, so you support one persons right to say what he wants but not the people that disagree with his point of view.

Oh, and you accuse them of facism.

How convenient....but really just ironic.

You want your views supported and any dissent silenced and are willing to hide behind spurious claims to do so.

Nice. Really, really nice. You fail 7th grade debate. See you in summer school.
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Old 04-10-2012, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Ah, so you support one persons right to say what he wants but not the people that disagree with his point of view.

Oh, and you accuse them of facism.

How convenient....but really just ironic.

You want your views supported and any dissent silenced and are willing to hide behind spurious claims to do so.

Nice. Really, really nice. You fail 7th grade debate. See you in summer school.
Not only all this but AADAD has issues with the fair application of the Constitution. This is a quote from another thread:

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If you want him protected under the constitution so be it. I don't.
Odd that he is defending free speech.
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Old 04-10-2012, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Well, Castro loves Obama..
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