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You don't know how long after Carter left office it was when Iran gave the prisoners up. Look that one up and then tell me if it was Carter or Bush I who caused them to do what they did.
We don't know how long it was after Carter left office???? IT WAS ABOUT 20 MINUTES!
It was Carter, he was the President. He got the blame for when they were taken. He gets the CREDIT for when they were released, since it basically happened on his watch. Not the actual release but the negogiations
Good men died while attempting to save others as a result of that poor leadership.
You've just proved what I said earlier about how the right would have blamed Obama if the bin Laden mission had failed, even though he supposedly had nothing to do with it. Try to convince me or anybody else other then fanatic rightwingers that the right would have given Carter any credit at all if that mission had succeeded.
How much credit do you give to Ronald Reagan for the freeing of the Iran hostages?
Why does it matter? Why can't you just celebrate a good moment for America, rather than devolve it to petty politics?
It's sick that all you can think about is how it helps Obama's reelection or his presidential report card, rather than the thousands of lives that will be saved because OBL is dead. Absolutely pathetic and immature.
As an aside, Obama assumed no personal risk for greenlighting the Bin Laden mission. He did little other than act as any other sitting President would have.
As an aside maybe you should lay off the asides. There were a whole **** load of risks for Obama, including coming out looking like another Carter. That he would actually send in helicopters (sound familiar) instead of just bombing the place into Kingdom Come shows that he wasn't taking that into consideration
Let's suppose for a minute Bush could of had a third term (please excuse the exploding liberal heads ). The likely outcome with Bin Laden would have been the same, yes? Could you make any argument as to why it wouldn't have been the same?
On the other hand the fate of the hostages is debatable if Jimmy Carter had a second term. You're right, Reagan didn't have to do anything. His mere presence is all that was required. The Iranians were very aware the games were over and the **** was going to hit the fan if they weren't released.
I have a better idea, let's stay in the real world where Obama is President, not Bush. bin Laden was killed on Obama's watch. For that alone he gets credit. But it goes beyond that, he was actively involved and in charge of the mission from day one. This wasn't just some Sir we have Osama bin Laden should we kill him situation that the cons are trying to make it out to be
Let's suppose for a minute Bush could of had a third term (please excuse the exploding liberal heads ). The likely outcome with Bin Laden would have been the same, yes? Could you make any argument as to why it wouldn't have been the same?
On the other hand the fate of the hostages is debatable if Jimmy Carter had a second term. You're right, Reagan didn't have to do anything. His mere presence is all that was required. The Iranians were very aware the games were over and the **** was going to hit the fan if they weren't released.
His "mere presence" had **** to do with it except that he was the "other guy" The guy who was opposing Jimmy Carter who to the Iranians represented the United States of America. Bozo the Clown could have been the newly elected President and the hostages would have been freed
His "mere presence" had **** to do with it except that he was the "other guy" The guy who was opposing Jimmy Carter who to the Iranians represented the United States of America. Bozo the Clown could have been the newly elected President and the hostages would have been freed
If Jimmy Carter was a Republican, and Ronald Reagan was a Democrat, YOU would be saying the EXACT OPPOSITE THING.
Carter was a pansy.
Reagan was going to kick ass and take names. It was going to get nasty, quick for Iran. All the sudden they were on their way home.
April 18, 1983 Bombing of U.S. Embassy in Beirut
Oct. 23, 1983 Bombing of Marine barracks in Beirut
(Reagan's response to that one was to cut and run. I bet that scared em)
Dec. 12, 1983 Bombing of the U.S. Embassy in Kuwait
March 16, 1984 CIA Station Chief William Buckley kidnapped
Sept. 20, 1984 Bombing of U.S. Embassy annex northeast of Beirut
April 5, 1986 Bombing of La Belle Discotheque
December 21, 1988 Bombing of Pan Am Flight 103
Not actually shaking in their boots now are they?
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). The likely outcome with Bin Laden would have been the same, yes? Could you make any argument as to why it wouldn't have been the same?
