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Old 04-11-2012, 04:00 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Once again, the big banks are sticking it to us by trading oil futures for no other reason than to jack up their profits. Naturally, the cast of characters include Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley. (where have we heard of them before?)

It's estimated that trading on futures with no expectation of ever taking delivery of a single barrel of oil adds 38-40% to the cost of crude, which translates to about a $1 a gallon at the pump.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/11/op...it_th_20120411

What will it take to rein in the big banks? Does either party have the guts?

The Democrats in Congress will offer legislation to curtail investment banks from dealing in oil, but let's see if they can get it past the House. And, let's see just how serious they are.

High Gas Prices? Blame Goldman Sachs
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Old 04-11-2012, 04:29 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Once again, the big banks are sticking it to us by trading oil futures for no other reason than to jack up their profits. Naturally, the cast of characters include Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley. (where have we heard of them before?)

It's estimated that trading on futures with no expectation of ever taking delivery of a single barrel of oil adds 38-40% to the cost of crude, which translates to about a $1 a gallon at the pump.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/11/op...it_th_20120411

What will it take to rein in the big banks? Does either party have the guts?

The Democrats in Congress will offer legislation to curtail investment banks from dealing in oil, but let's see if they can get it past the House. And, let's see just how serious they are.

High Gas Prices? Blame Goldman Sachs
There are a few Dems that haven't been purchased, we need to elect more into office and watch all of them. Once there are enough, stop the purchasing.
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Old 04-11-2012, 05:23 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Actually some banks do take delivery. They rent tankers, take delivery and let the ships sit offshore until prices spike and then sell. The banks are profiting at every point in the delivery pipeline.

The oil companies are not doing this, the banks are. And yet the MSM loudly points to the oil companies.
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Old 04-11-2012, 08:52 AM
 
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Actually some banks do take delivery. They rent tankers, take delivery and let the ships sit offshore until prices spike and then sell. The banks are profiting at every point in the delivery pipeline.

The oil companies are not doing this, the banks are. And yet the MSM loudly points to the oil companies.
As does Obama. Obama is owned by the big banks; just look at the revolving door in his administration with people from Government Sachs & JP Morgan. It is no different with the Obama administration than it was with the Clinton administration (and I suspect Bush's as well).
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Old 04-11-2012, 09:26 AM
 
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You are here:

ZIRP , rent seeking economy.
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Old 04-11-2012, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Actually some banks do take delivery. They rent tankers, take delivery and let the ships sit offshore until prices spike and then sell. The banks are profiting at every point in the delivery pipeline.

The oil companies are not doing this, the banks are. And yet the MSM loudly points to the oil companies.
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As does Obama. Obama is owned by the big banks; just look at the revolving door in his administration with people from Government Sachs & JP Morgan. It is no different with the Obama administration than it was with the Clinton administration (and I suspect Bush's as well).
And these two posts are the reason why we're a mess. One blames MSM, the other blames Obama. Neither show any desire to address the point made in the OP and both show what the political opposition is about.

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The Democrats in Congress will offer legislation to curtail investment banks from dealing in oil, but let's see if they can get it past the House. And, let's see just how serious they are.
Some might be serious, but I bet they are easily outnumbered considering the numbers from both sides of the aisle.
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Old 04-11-2012, 09:42 AM
 
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It's estimated that trading on futures with no expectation of ever taking delivery of a single barrel of oil adds 38-40% to the cost of crude, which translates to about a $1 a gallon at the pump.
I have to dig up the article - but the 38-40% is normal. An article I sourced a while ago stated that the percentage actually is now around 60-70% which is a large part of the price increases we have now.

When I find it, I will post it.

EDIT: Here's the link.

Once Again, Speculators Behind Sharply Rising Oil and Gasoline Prices

Historically, financial speculators accounted for about 30 percent of oil trading in commodity markets, while producers and end users made up about 70 percent. Today it's almost the reverse.

A McClatchy review of the latest Commitment of Traders report from the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, which regulates oil trading, shows that producers and merchants made up just 36 percent of all contracts traded in the week ending Feb. 14.

Last edited by DRob4JC; 04-11-2012 at 10:58 AM.. Reason: Add source link
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Old 04-11-2012, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Once again, the big banks are sticking it to us by trading oil futures for no other reason than to jack up their profits. Naturally, the cast of characters include Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley. (where have we heard of them before?)

It's estimated that trading on futures with no expectation of ever taking delivery of a single barrel of oil adds 38-40% to the cost of crude, which translates to about a $1 a gallon at the pump.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/11/op...it_th_20120411

What will it take to rein in the big banks? Does either party have the guts?

The Democrats in Congress will offer legislation to curtail investment banks from dealing in oil, but let's see if they can get it past the House. And, let's see just how serious they are.

High Gas Prices? Blame Goldman Sachs

oh please

I dont see you complaining about any other COMODITY other that what your handlers tell you to complain about

are you complaining about coffee speculation????...up way more than oil

are you complaining about sugar speculation???....up way more than oil
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Old 04-11-2012, 10:20 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Uh the uber rich own both parties.

>I dont see you complaining about any other COMODITY other that what your handlers tell you to complain about<

The price of oil could ruin the whole economy if it went crazy high. The price of coffee could ruin Starbucks.
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Old 04-11-2012, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Texas
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oh please

I dont see you complaining about any other COMODITY other that what your handlers tell you to complain about

are you complaining about coffee speculation????...up way more than oil

are you complaining about sugar speculation???....up way more than oil

I have handlers? Wow! Who knew?
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