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Old 04-13-2012, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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You obviously do support indoctrination, as long as its your preferred brand.
You've clearly been on the receiving end of quite a bit yourself.
Yes that is why I have repeatedly stated that you should be able to question what you are learning since higher education if nothing else is suppose to get you to think.

 
Old 04-13-2012, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Humboldt Park, Chicago
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My main argument is that this course isn't going to talk about the failures of communism at all and is just going to be an indoctrination course. What do you not comprehend about that exactly?
I don't comprehend why any class should have to focus on the shortcomings of the subject for the sole purpose of satisfying your personal feelings about it.
As a demagogue, you may not like the free exchange of ideas and information, or analysis through a lens that you don't approve of, but thats too bad, because there are many more perspectives than yours.
Your arguments have all been about your feelings regarding the subject matter, not an understanding of the subject matter itself. We get it, you don't think anyone should learn anything about Marxism. Too bad that's not a valid reason for this curriculum not to be taught. Not even remotely so.
 
Old 04-13-2012, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Humboldt Park, Chicago
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Yes that is why I have repeatedly stated that you should be able to question what you are learning since higher education if nothing else is suppose to get you to think.
Then why do you have such a fear of opposing viewpoints that you want them silenced?
 
Old 04-13-2012, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Normal
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Then why do you have such a fear of opposing viewpoints that you want them silenced?
It is kind of scary that they are advocating a near fascist idea.
 
Old 04-13-2012, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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I don't comprehend why any class should have to focus on the shortcomings of the subject for the sole purpose of satisfying your personal feelings about it.
Perhaps because it's political class and you are suppose to able ask questions and discuss short comings? Did you even go to college?

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As a demagogue, you may not like the free exchange of ideas and information,
Your not getting a free exchange of ideas in the course you are getting a ton of bs.

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or analysis through a lens that you don't approve of, but thats too bad, because there are many more perspectives than yours.
We've been around the block several times on this matter and my previous answers are my answers now.

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Your arguments have all been about your feelings regarding the subject matter, not an understanding of the subject matter itself.
Oh please! The class is talking about the practical application of marxism and telling you to go join socialist protest groups what is there not to understand here exactly? The course is BS with the professors being nothing more then preachers.

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We get it, you don't think anyone should learn anything about Marxism.
As I have stated before several times if you discuss it truthfully and show what happens when its applied in the real world then I have no problem talking about it. Unfortunately the professors and there ilk are all about hiding behind education to push there agenda.

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Too bad that's not a valid reason for this curriculum not to be taught. Not even remotely so.
Yes because brainwashing is worthy of higher education.
 
Old 04-13-2012, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Then why do you have such a fear of opposing viewpoints that you want them silenced?
Silenced? I'm not the one needing others to back me up when arguing with others now am I?
 
Old 04-13-2012, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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It is kind of scary that they are advocating a near fascist idea.
There is no real difference between fascism and communism.
 
Old 04-13-2012, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Normal
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There is no real difference between fascism and communism.
If you believe that, since you are a Fascist, why are you against Communism and Socialism?

You are wrong anyway.

Last edited by sprtrpr; 04-13-2012 at 07:17 PM..
 
Old 04-13-2012, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Humboldt Park, Chicago
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Perhaps because it's political class and you are suppose to able ask questions and discuss short comings? Did you even go to college?



Your not getting a free exchange of ideas in the course you are getting a ton of bs.



We've been around the block several times on this matter and my previous answers are my answers now.



Oh please! The class is talking about the practical application of marxism and telling you to go join socialist protest groups what is there not to understand here exactly? The course is BS with the professors being nothing more then preachers.



As I have stated before several times if you discuss it truthfully and show what happens when its applied in the real world then I have no problem talking about it. Unfortunately the professors and there ilk are all about hiding behind education to push there agenda.



Yes because brainwashing is worthy of higher education.
Yes, yes. More about your feelings.
Until you take the class, you have no idea how open the discourse will be within the classroom. Instead, you can only make bold predictions (based on your feelings) and generalizations (Again based on your feelings) and personal judgements about what knowledge is valuable and what is not (also based on your feelings)

Besides, what do you care if the students practice real world application of these theories? If they're the abject failure that you guarantee them to be, they should fall flat on their face in the real world with a tremendous thud and you can laugh yourself silly.

Until then, all we've got is your feelings, and no one care about your feelings.
 
Old 04-13-2012, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Humboldt Park, Chicago
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Silenced? I'm not the one needing others to back me up when arguing with others now am I?
I don't think anyone has needed help dismantling you on this thread.
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