Liberals really AREN'T liberal at all

[kshe95girl]

Originally Posted by robertpolyglot

Let me preface this thread by saying a lot of our opinions are based on our observations and assessments. That said, I've always found "liberals" fascinating. As a child, I equated them with hippies and "free love;" therefore, that they would be happy and friendly. What I came to learn by the time I was in my late teens, that they are actually quite disgruntled. When I entered the world of work, I had a co-worker who went to Berkeley. Since there is "the Berkeley mystique," I asked him what it was like to have gone to such a bastion of liberalism. He said that "when there's a list as long as your arm as to what you should do (recycle) and think (vote, political views), then it's really NOT liberal at all." I will never forget that.

I've found that liberals are actually more smug and rigid than a lot of conservatives. Heck, there are conservatives who consistently vote Democrat...and some who believe in national health care. But, the question is: Do you think that many liberals pay "lip service" to the concept and aren't very liberal at all? Or for whom liberal is just a way to be alternative and rebellious?

Dont know how I missed this thread, but allow me to translate the OPs remarks;
Translation=I cannot accept anyones views that I do not understand, therefore, I must whine.

[ambient]

Originally Posted by robertpolyglot

Let me preface this thread by saying a lot of our opinions are based on our observations and assessments. That said, I've always found "liberals" fascinating. As a child, I equated them with hippies and "free love;" therefore, that they would be happy and friendly. What I came to learn by the time I was in my late teens, that they are actually quite disgruntled. When I entered the world of work, I had a co-worker who went to Berkeley. Since there is "the Berkeley mystique," I asked him what it was like to have gone to such a bastion of liberalism. He said that "when there's a list as long as your arm as to what you should do (recycle) and think (vote, political views), then it's really NOT liberal at all." I will never forget that.

I've found that liberals are actually more smug and rigid than a lot of conservatives. Heck, there are conservatives who consistently vote Democrat...and some who believe in national health care. But, the question is: Do you think that many liberals pay "lip service" to the concept and aren't very liberal at all? Or for whom liberal is just a way to be alternative and rebellious?

I think your post is full of blase generalizations that could just as easily be applied to many conservatives as to liberals. So it's not a commentary that I can take very seriously.

If we're going to make generalizations, then I would wager that those who entirely write off the other side as "smug and rigid" are probably victims of the exact same shortcomings they point out in others - which is rather ironic, isn't it?

[Jerseyt719]

To the OP. Don't judge liberals as a whole from what you read on this board. Just as I can say not to judge conservatives from this board either.
I am socially liberal and fiscally conservative. Let's face it, most of politics affects your bottom line in your pocket, therefore I vote conservative.
A lot of what you read here is double talk. These libs will tell you in one breath that conservatives are all dumb, uneducated rednecks. Then in the next they will say conservatives only care about the rich. Which is it?
But that's on here. In real life, when you have real discussions with people that align themselves with one labeled party, you will find that your ideas are not that different.
For the most part, social issues are worked out on a state by state basis and are nothing more than political distraction nationally.