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Originally Posted by ovcatto
Of course because god knows that I would never want to identify with a group that that has so enriched American culture, found a way to survive three hundred years plus of the most abject oppression, forced a nation to live up to its own founding principles (non-violently) and served as an inspiration to oppressed people both in the United States and across the world. Damn sure don't want to identify with those kind of folks.
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Look, every "culture" has enriched America. You don't think the Italians have enriched American culture? Would it be a good thing if all people of any Italian ancestry at all, sat around feeling sorry for themselves, while creating their effectively separate society. Because at one time, Americans discriminated against Italians and Catholics in general, calling them things like WOP's?
As for the comment about oppression and the reference to slavery. You don't think anyone else has ever been enslaved? Practically everyone in the entire world has an ancestor that was a slave. The Jews were slaves, the Jews were kept in Ghetto's. The Jews constantly were killed and their property destroyed. The Jews were oppressed, and ran out of country after country. Do the Jews sit around crying all day about it?
As for blacks and inspiration for oppressed people around the world. I disagree with your assessment. First, I don't believe that blacks from the United States are very highly regarded by oppressed people in other parts of the world(other than maybe Africa). Moreover, blacks aren't highly regarded in this country in any real way. Because you have accomplished nothing, except going socially and morally backwards as a people. Largely because you want to sit around all day feeling sorry for yourself.
I might agree with you that certain African nations did rise up against their supposed oppressors, and may have used America as an example for the need. But the vast majority of those African nations ended up worse off than they started. Because rarely did the movement ever really amount to racial acceptance. But rather, it ended up that the blacks ultimately wanted to displace and punish the whites, so that they would dominate government and the economy.
Which is effectively what is happening in this country, where blacks have become protectionist and somewhat insulated. Ultimately, blacks have been creating their separate society, always identifying as a separate group from everyone else, attacking any black person who doesn't constantly identify as black. Always afraid that white people want to force them to lose their identity. Trying to exaggerate the past, exaggerate their impact on American culture, to further their own agenda.
The problem I have is, what is it that you are hoping to accomplish? To preserve a culture that isn't even yours? To preserve a culture that tends to be immoral and overly sexualized? To preserve a culture that constantly changes the English language until it is unrecognizable even between different generations of blacks?
In my view, you would be far better off being assimilated into mainstream America, trying to be like "the white man". Rather than constantly fighting against it, trying to preserve something not worth preserving.
It reminds me of George Obama(Barack Obama's brother), when he talked about colonialism. Basically arguing that, Kenya never should have become independent from Britain. And that Kenya was effectively fighting over nothing, and accomplished nothing. And that had Kenya stayed with Britain, it would be far better off today than it is.
George Obama In '2016: Obama's America': President's Brother Appears In Conservative Documentary (VIDEO)
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Seems like the elephant in the room, but I would suggest that as long as some white folks insist on preserving those benefits of being white the whole issue isn't going anywhere. 
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Its not an issue of preserving benefits of being white. Its an issue of rewarding people who adhere to the mainstream culture. Its minimizing the influence of culturally different "outsiders", whom you want to marginalize until they basically disappear. Money is power and influence.
No white person cares if some black guy like Ben Carson has money or influence. No one is trying to keep him down. Because we see him effectively as us. We want him to be as successful as possible, so that he can be a bridge between blacks and whites. The same can be said for someone like Thomas Sowell.
What white people resent, is really the ghetto people of the world having money and influence. They resent the ghetto culture, rap music, black athletes, etc.
If you want to look at the worst nepotism in this country, you need to look at the Jews. From Hollywood to banks, Jews love to hire other Jews, but who cares?
My point is, if all black people attempted to speak and act more like the mainstream culture. I think the general animosity towards them would largely disappear. And for instance, if a person could largely pass for white to begin with(Greeks almost look middle-eastern), then that helps eliminate much of it as well. Asians for instance, tend to more quickly blend into the mainstream culture, they tend to marry more readily outside of their race, and don't request any special benefits or special recognition. Nor do they get their feelings hurt when people who are only part Asian, identify as white.
I just feel that that would create a more healthy country, rather than being obsessed with being part of some separate culture. Especially one that tends to cause harm to its own people.
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