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Old 04-16-2012, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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What is sad is how Wingnuts continue to shriek he is "destroying the country, eliminating Capitalism, making us Socialist, blah blah blah" when, in fact, he is keeping the status quo and not changing a thing. Imagine the uproar if this man tried to balance the budget by eliminating subsidies and reducing the trillions in wasteful military spending and ending this senseless war in Afghanistan.

The Wingnuts would come unglued and start firing their guns in the air, dressed in their Tea Bagger outfits and tri-corner hats shrieking "Revolution!"
Yeah, hope and change, right. Pfffffttt...Big dummy doing same as usual. Not changing a thing.

Obama seeks power to shrink the federal government - CBS News


Obama: Osama bin Laden Dead - Full Video - YouTube



In its first three years, the Obama administration deported record-high numbers of undocumented immigrants, removing about 1.2 million undocumented immigrants.
How Many People Have Really Been Deported Under Obama?


U.S. likely to make a profit on bailouts, Treasury says - Los Angeles Times

Etc. See? He's just a terrible, terrible President. If only we could've kept George Bush and got in some more wars with countries that haven't attacked us and stuff.
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Old 04-16-2012, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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Wassup 2008 - YouTube

Relative, it is.
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Old 04-16-2012, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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Flip the coin, though. He's not perfect, that's for sure.
P.S. This is hilarious. And true.

President Barack Obama's First Ad of 2012 - YouTube
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Old 04-17-2012, 01:32 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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I work with the Military.

So do I, every day. The base I work at is even a MAJCOM headquarters, so there are more senior officers than normal here. I still would never dream of making a claim about what *most* senior officers across the entire Air Force, let alone the entire military, think about our President.

I think you're projecting.
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Old 04-17-2012, 02:06 PM
 
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Um, marines and army aren't quite the bastions of knowledge and wisdom....
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Old 04-17-2012, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Yea, it's a shame that he went out the way he did.

But far be it for me to feel sorry for a retired 4 star. He makes more money than i do and doesn't have to even show up to a job anymore to get it. So he'll just have to do without my sympathy.
Why feel bad for McCrystal? He knew he was damaging the strategic plans when he shot his mouth off publicly. He was careful enough to make it clear his opinions were his own, but this is inexcusable for any 4 Star General.

Disagreement among the top staff is common, but it is properly left inside the Pentagon, especially in these times, when any word that goes outside those five walls becomes immediately public. McCrystal was trying to pull a power grab on Petraeus, and he rightly got busted for it.

And in the end, he was totally wrong, and Petraeus' plan was correct. If McCrystal's statements had been followed as military strategy, we would still be stuck in the middle of Iraq.

The same thing happened during 'Nam; several Generals lost their jobs then, as they did afterwards in other shorter conflicts.

As for poor picked on ex-Sgt. Stein, I hold even less sympathy.

The article never questioned any changes in Stein's blog; since it was his own, he could have easily removed anything before the charges against him were brought, and so far, we have not been privy to the proceedings that resulted in his discharge. Since the discharge is a strictly military matter, with no civil charges accompanying, we will never learn the specifics, either.

His discharge was the military equivalent of a company's board dismissing one of their members. This too, is never a public matter unless the board decides to allow it to go public.

As an active Navy man, I did not hold any love for President Johnson. But I never said anything pro or con about him in public until I received my honorable discharge, and then I actively joined the thousands who wanted an end to the Viet Nam war. Some of my former shipmates did the same.

Sgt. Stein could have, and should have, done the same. If I had been a member of the commission who discharged him, I would have held out for some brig time before his Less Than Honorable discharge, and I would have held out for a Dishonorable discharge as well.

His actions betrayed the oldest and most honorable traditions of the Marine Corps, the oldest corps of soldiery in the United States. Sailors and Marines were the first to engage in the Revolutionary War, and they were paying in blood while our fledgling Army was still being formed.
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Old 04-17-2012, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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The issue with Marines and most Military is that they are trained for combat and have a very "skewered" ideology that doesn't conform with the rest of the nation or their mentality.
President Obama has never had to serve in the Military or even had to resort to "Military" service hence he sees the " Military" as a "Tool" that is at his disposal.
The Military are entitled to their opinions but they still have to answer to the CIC.
The "Military" has a very "myopic" view of the World yet we have don't have a problem deploying them.
Not so. The military has as many differing political opinions as any other part of our society. Name a political stance, and it will be found.

All Presidents, whether they were veterans or not, have all used our military at their disposal to advance any number of national interests, since the very beginnings of our nation. That is what the military is for, just as much as it is for national defense.

The line ' To the shores of Tripoli' in the Marine anthem refer to one of the first uses of the Marine Corps in securing our national interest. Back in the late 1700's, the Marines occupied Tripoli and killed a bunch of pirates who were messing with our seagoing merchant ships. It was only the first of many foreign interventions that followed.
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Old 04-17-2012, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Point Hope Alaska
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Well the TRUTH.;.. from a Major General

Retired Maj. Gen. Paul Vallely, the chief of Stand Up America, a national security expert and Fox News contributor, says the “Certificate of Live Birth” released in April by the White House as “proof positive” of President Obama’s Hawaiian birth is a forgery, but the FBI is covering the fraud and no one in Congress is willing to tackle the situation because of fears of a “black backlash” if the failings of the nation’s first black president are revealed.

In an interview today with Greg Corombos for WND, Vallely, who previously has expressed concerns about whether the Obama administration is in violation of the U.S. Constitution, said, “His actual birth certificate has never been found in Hawaii nor released from Hawaii hospital there, Kapiolani hospital there, if it in fact did exist.”


“We’ve had three CIA agents, retired, and some of their analytical associates look at it, and all came to the same conclusion, that even the long-form was a forged document,” Vallely said.

Obama has a huge surprise coming to him this FALL - !



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCQDhOR2Y7o
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Old 04-17-2012, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Well the TRUTH.;.. from a Major General
From a long retired Major General well into apparent senile dementia.

We've been waiting a very long time for his imaginary "CIA experts" to come forward. Alas, they do not appear to exist.
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Old 04-17-2012, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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No one.. absolutely NO ONE - has any credibility EXCEPT YOU!
Since when was this about me?



I must scare the crap out of you or something.
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