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Old 04-15-2012, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Texas
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.....and again without a break down of what those federal dollars are being used for those are all useless numbers.
Oh, I agree. But since OP apparently doesn't see the need to consider all that, neither should I when refuting his/her post.
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Old 04-15-2012, 11:47 AM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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The facts are correct, I just posted statistics myself, but like it corresponds, there is a strong tie between low intelligence and being a GOP supporter.



If that's true, wouldn't the right wing excuse of "because there are alot of black people" be bogus as the southern states should then be strongly democratic?

You can't be serious about the GOP and lower intelligence. BTW I have a bridge to sell you. LOL.
Apparently you seem to believe everything you read and take it for the truth. I would say something here but the moderators would likely remove it. Keep believing the BS you read.
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Old 04-15-2012, 11:48 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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I mean I hate free loaders. We should just cut them all off of govt welfare checks. Imagine how much money we'd save ever year if we just cut off the red state free loaders ever year from the govt coffers. Hilarious how they're the ones that cry the most about govt spending too.



The Tax Foundation - Federal Spending Received Per Dollar of Taxes Paid by State, 2005


I can't stand all the red states sucking off the govt teet,.....

Maybe they should get [MOD CUT/inappropriate] edcuations and jobs down there. Bunch of damn socialists down there that want govt money to support them.

sure thing, I will accept this. but please tell us who is getting the most money per state?
when a state such as Wyoming is getting 1 amount, how much is a state such as California getting?
dont tell us how much is spent per person, tell us how much each state is getting in taxpayer money.
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Old 04-15-2012, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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That's harsh but you are probably right. It's very hard for a working man or woman to live in a blue state because housing is high dollar. Tho most blue states are part red like Illinois: take away Chicagoland and I'm going to say most of Il IS quite red and much safer, even for Black people.

Arizona is a "red" state but parts of it are blue like Flagstaff and Tucson but expensive or full of illegal aliens who push down wages for regular working people.


Federal spending knows no boundaries, so to attempt to draw a comparison between red states and blue states based solely on money going out or coming in with no other considerations taken into account is just lazy.
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Old 04-15-2012, 11:59 AM
 
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Reference that has break down of what those federal funds are being used for?
It is irrelevant. The fact of the matter is that Red States need more money than they pay. You can rationalize this anyway you want, but that does not escape the fact that Red States require other people to fund them.

The irony is that Republicans are always yammering about higher taxes, but have no problem when taxpayers prop them up.
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Old 04-15-2012, 12:03 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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It is irrelevant. The fact of the matter is that Red States need more money than they pay. You can rationalize this anyway you want, but that does not escape the fact that Red States require other people to fund them.

The irony is that Republicans are always yammering about higher taxes, but have no problem when taxpayers prop them up.

guess what, if the highest population state (California) needed 1 million dollars and the lowest population state (Wyoming) needed 1 million dollars as well. of course Wyoming will get more per person, even tho they both got the same amount.

but tell us how much each state got in total taxpayer money. something tells me that red states will be getting alot less than blue states will.
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Old 04-15-2012, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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They do it in every thread. Every time It's pointed out that the red states have the highest margins of welfare recipients, are the poorest, and the least educated, they just say "Because there's alot of blacks and mexicans"

They just don't get it that there is a strong correlation between being a leech on society, uneducated, and being a GOP supporter.


Who said anything about Mexicans?
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Old 04-15-2012, 12:05 PM
 
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Interesting, the highest number of those in poverty are in the bright red southern states, where the lowest are those is bright blue states in the north east. I guess facts lie


Note the most prosperous states are also the whitest states.
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Old 04-15-2012, 12:06 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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guess what, if the highest population state (California) needed 1 million dollars and the lowest population state (Wyoming) needed 1 million dollars as well. of course Wyoming will get more per person, even tho they both got the same amount.

but tell us how much each state got in total taxpayer money. something tells me that red states will be getting alot less than blue states will.



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Old 04-15-2012, 12:07 PM
 
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I mean I hate free loaders. We should just cut them all off of govt welfare checks. Imagine how much money we'd save ever year if we just cut off the red state free loaders ever year from the govt coffers. Hilarious how they're the ones that cry the most about govt spending too.

First, I don't see in the article that it said the spending was for welfare.
Could be for roads, infrastructure, national defense, education and so on.

I think the states pay most of the welfare costs.

Where is the big blue Democrat state of California on that list which hosts 10% of the population and 30% of all the welfare costs to this nation?

#1 We can only handle the elderly and disabled long term on social programs. That is our primary responsibility.

#2 We in the 60s had 1-100 people working for government, now it is 1-9 which is unsustainable. We need to fire 90% of government employees back to the private sector.

#3 No benefits for residents and illegals. If a non-citizen resident is found to be on the dole, take away residency and deport them.

#4 We can't have social programs and open borders. Too much a carrot on a stick as it is, so we need to close borders or we end all access to the welfare state.

We have to reform welfare again, drastically limit the amount and duration of social programs.
Democrats have been purposly growing who can be on the dole and government employment welfare and the problem is when we've gotten nearly half the population used to getting stuff, like other nations they are spoiled brats and will riot over their loss of free stuff. They know NO SHAME anymore.

That above is what we really need to deal with to fix things on the taking end.
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