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Obviously, you're cherry picking data. By almost any metric those three countries blow the USA away. Gini, an easy one to translate between economies, hands down, USA loses. Infant mortality, illiteracy, health care coverage, health care costs per capita, workforce utilization, productivity, education, cost of education, per capita gdp, right side of obesity, life expectancy.... On average this country is lagging behind most developed countries.
I cherry picked info? You are the one that made claims, I merely showed those claims. You are now attempting to back peddle and change the dynamics.
Not the Lorenz Curve and "social inequality"....(SMH)
Funny thing about percentages....they are easy to manipulate.
The many things you are now claiming are but a socialists wet dream of utopia. (HINT: Europe is faltering, more so then the US. Funny how the US has sent 100's of Billions over there to help stabilize them. Look up the upcoming ESM)
EXAMPLE: Infant mortality rates may be declining worldwide simply due to people not having as many babies. Europe has had a decline in child birth, ergo, there would be fewer infant mortality numbers, thus the percentage is lowered and you make your claim that Europe is so much better in all these many areas vs the US.
To be fair, the comparisons you are attempting to make don't really met out any actual argument of the US is better or that Europe is better. the only real reason you are claiming these "social factors" is simply based on your ideal of socialism, nothing more.
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You mistake working more hours with having good work ethics. Just like some managers who assume that if you spend 10 hours a day playing solitaire in your cube you are working hard just because you are "always in the office" and reply to emails. Lol
Blowing smoke? We are talking about Norway, Sweden, and Germany, why do you keep intersecting the balamce of the EU into the discussion? Any faltering Germany might be experiencing is caused by shouldering the pigs.
You're sputtering, infant mortality isn't controlled by birth rates. Deaths per 1000 live births is a constant.
Per capita gdp America losses. Gdp America v EU, America losses.
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Originally Posted by Liquid Reigns
I cherry picked info? You are the one that made claims, I merely showed those claims. You are now attempting to back peddle and change the dynamics.
Not the Lorenz Curve and "social inequality"....(SMH)
Funny thing about percentages....they are easy to manipulate.
The many things you are now claiming are but a socialists wet dream of utopia. (HINT: Europe is faltering, more so then the US. Funny how the US has sent 100's of Billions over there to help stabilize them. Look up the upcoming ESM)
EXAMPLE: Infant mortality rates may be declining worldwide simply due to people not having as many babies. Europe has had a decline in child birth, ergo, there would be fewer infant mortality numbers, thus the percentage is lowered and you make your claim that Europe is so much better in all these many areas vs the US.
You really aren't suggesting GDP is an indicator are you? Hands down the US wins.
To be fair, the comparisons you are attempting to make don't really met out any actual argument of the US is better or that Europe is better. the only real reason you are claiming these "social factors" is simply based on your ideal of socialism, nothing more.
Blowing smoke? We are talking about Norway, Sweden, and Germany, why do you keep intersecting the balamce of the EU into the discussion? Any faltering Germany might be experiencing is caused by shouldering the pigs.
You're sputtering, infant mortality isn't controlled by birth rates. Deaths per 1000 live births is a constant.
Per capita gdp America losses. Gdp America v EU, America losses.
The only constant is the x1000.
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Infant Mortality Rate (IMR) = __number of infant deaths during time period__ X 1,000
number of live births during time period
EXAMPLE: IMR for Bernalillo County 2001 =__number infant deaths Bernalillo County 2001_ X 1,000
number of live births Bernalillo County 2001
numerator = number infant deaths Bernalillo County 2001= 50
denominator = number of live births Bernalillo County 2001 = 8,357
constant = 1,000
time period = 2001
IMR for Bernalillo County 2001 = __50 __ X 1,000 = 5.9/ 1,000 live births
8,357
Infant mortality rates are determined using numerous factors, @ birth, 28 days or less, 1 year or less, 5 years or less. Most of IMR is based on projection out to 5yo.
If we are talking about only Norway, Sweden and Germany, then the only country that out does the US in per capita GDP is Norway. The USA is ranked 4 while Germany is ranked 8 and Sweden 12. Sorry, but your claims are but poor attempts at claiming your opinion as fact. Even the CIA world factbook https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat.../2004rank.html says the following: Norway (8), USA (12), Germany (29), Sweden (21).
I keep interjecting the entire EU simply because it better favors your claims, you simply fail in realizing that.
We all by the way have one nice sized boob regardless of sex.
Per capita that is of course.
Statistics can be misleading or rather they do not always reflect actual reality.
Obviously, you're cherry picking data. By almost any metric those three countries blow the USA away. Gini, an easy one to translate between economies, hands down, USA loses. Infant mortality, illiteracy, health care coverage, health care costs per capita, workforce utilization, productivity, education, cost of education, per capita gdp, right side of obesity, life expectancy.... On average this country is lagging behind most developed countries.
And that's try in most part as well. America somehow managed to lag in many aspects...
I think Hispanic people assimilate quite well. It only appears to Anglos that they are the only ones who assimilate well, because when Italian, German, English, Irish, French, Dutch, Scandinavian immigrants still practice the uniqueness of their old world cultures, it seems natural (even "American") to them. HOWEVER, if you look at the Anglos that immigrated to Texas and the Southwest, you see that they totally accepted the Mexican/Spanish culture and even incorporated it into their own. People adapt and learn from one another. The ones that don't just become angry all the time.
Agreed. People tend to forget that Scandinavian and German immigrants from the late XIX and early XX century formed a lot of little Hamburg and little Oslo towns in the Upper Midwest. They spoke solely in their native tongue, had German and Swedish, Norwegian, etc newspapers and basically lived the way they had been doing back at home. Their kids assimilated quickly. What happens with Hispanics is that they are still coming to America, so their assimiliation doesn't show until the first American-born generation.
Ironically, a lot of thos Hispanics who have been born in the USA are 100% Americans (whether that term is correct or not) and their seniors bitterly complain they have forgotten their heritage.
Yep, I'm also wondering where the outrage is that the Chinese and Japanese haven't americanize their menus in all this time. If you let them go the Vietnamese and Thai restaurants will never drop their transitional dishes and start serving pink slime burgers.
When you walk into Kmart/Walmart/Best buy I don't see Chinese or vietnamese subtitles in the stores. Its Spanish.
I don't press 2 for Vietnamese, chinese or Japanese.
I don't see a Vietnamese, chinese or Japanese pushing for language autonomy.
We have a cancer of socialism within our system, they have socialism more so and they suffer more from it.
I do not think they are as productive as we are.
The dole world wide needs to go away more and should be limited to the disabled or elderly.
If Hispanics and others were made to be tax payers instead of tax takers THEN you'd see the assimilation we need of people stay here.
Thats not the solution to legalize people who broke our laws. Assimilation starts with language. We need to minimize the Spanish language here & Bilingual schools. Because if its all over people feel no need to assimilate or Speak English.
Agreed. People tend to forget that Scandinavian and German immigrants from the late XIX and early XX century formed a lot of little Hamburg and little Oslo towns in the Upper Midwest. They spoke solely in their native tongue, had German and Swedish, Norwegian, etc newspapers and basically lived the way they had been doing back at home. Their kids assimilated quickly. What happens with Hispanics is that they are still coming to America, so their assimiliation doesn't show until the first American-born generation.
Ironically, a lot of thos Hispanics who have been born in the USA are 100% Americans (whether that term is correct or not) and their seniors bitterly complain they have forgotten their heritage.
Legal aliens or illegal aliens? Legal aliens ain't the problem and their kids usually do Ok here in the US.
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