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Old 04-20-2012, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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How about all the blacks, whites an other non-hispanics who lost their lives during World War I,II and Vietnam? Some Americans join for patriotic reasons some do not but regardless it has nothing to do with the concept of assimilation.
They fought against people who were into "assimilation into a singular cultural and other social collective".

 
Old 04-20-2012, 01:40 PM
 
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Is that a yes or a no? Man you don't have the courage to come out with it.
I just told you. reread my answer.
 
Old 04-20-2012, 01:44 PM
 
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I believe in the eyes of God we are all equal and brothers and sisters.

I've taken communion next to men and women I knew for a fact were illegal. The priest asked none of us for our papers.

I'm quite sure Christ didn't care about our status.

(Let me tell you. It's quite humbling to take communion next to a man who has come to mass directly from the fields and wants only to worship his God.)
Yes, and we are all equal under the eyes of the law. Therefore we should all equally pay for our own lawbreaking. If I steal I go to jail. If one breaks our immigration laws they get deported. Comprende?

Christ cared about lawbreaking. That is why he left us the ten commandments to follow.

So he only wants to worship his God in church. On the outside he is breaking the law if he is working in the fields or anywhere else illegally. Your point is? Priests aren't authorized to ask for anyone's papers. Your point again is?
 
Old 04-20-2012, 01:49 PM
 
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When was the last time you saw a Black, Asian, Hispanic or any other American smoking a peace pipe and eating a peyote mushroom?
Actually my husband was invited to smoke a new pipe just a couple of months ago. (No peyote mushrooms though. I know you're disappointed.) He considered it a tremendous honor and the sign of some very old friendships.

I'm beginning to think what you don't know about Indian culture could fill the Grand Canyon.

Oh, and smoking the pipe is a sacred ceremony and the Indians who engaging it are **Surprise!** AMERICANS.
 
Old 04-20-2012, 01:55 PM
 
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I agree.

OP. Can you answer the question?

Does God want illegal Hispanics kicked out of the USA?
I would say that God would want all lawbreakers to pay the consquences for their actions according to our laws regardless of whether they be Hispanic or not. In the case of illegal immigration our laws dictate deportation as the consequences for illegal entry. Why do I smell the distinct but foul smell of the race card in the air?
 
Old 04-20-2012, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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Just wow. Isn't it their own land (a reservation) to decide that they want to put up a casino? Unless you are alluding to some sort of gambling addiction at said casinos, you have issues in alluding that only Whites are the ones supporting our society.



I'm still on your crass comments towards the Amerindian peoples, why would I think that you would feel any different towards other ethnicities?...
It may be their own land I'll give you that...BUT if the rest of the citizenry was allowed to build casinos to compete then we would have a situation more on equal footing.

Not that I would want that as I feel that state lotteries along with the indian casinos have helped greatly in the ruination of my once great state. Statistics have proven that when an indian casino goes in, the nearby community suffers. There is more crime, and more homelessness and more addicts created. Yes, I know several individuals who have been lulled by the casinos false promises...and the responsibility cannot solely be laid at their feet. Casinos breed addiction and they should shoulder some of the social responsibility for the outcomes that happen naturally when they open a casino.

As for the "crass comments"....I don't support any demographic that recieves special rules of their own while the rest have to abide by the laws in place. I also don't support extra goodies and handouts while the rest of the public has to make do.
 
Old 04-20-2012, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Denver
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I would say that God would want all lawbreakers to pay the consquences for their actions according to our laws regardless of whether they be Hispanic or not. In the case of illegal immigration our laws dictate deportation as the consequences for illegal entry. Why do I smell the distinct but foul smell of the race card in the air?
The race card was played when the OP started typing the subject of the thread

" Hispanic..."
 
Old 04-20-2012, 01:58 PM
 
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How did these illegals from Mexico manage to join our military? That isn't allowed and is against the law.
One of the Medal of Honor winners (it makes me weep just thinking about how brave you have to be to win that) lied and said he was born in Texas. This was during WWII.

Know any WWII vets? You might want to ask one how closely they were checking these things after Pearl Harbor.

(And find one quickly. The members of the Greatest Generation who served in WWII are dying at the rate of more than 1,000 a day. If you want to say "Thank you" I suggest you do it before it's too late.)
 
Old 04-20-2012, 02:02 PM
 
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If you don't get it, I can't help you. You're too consumed with hate and fear.
You're the one who doesn't get what assimilation is. What hate and fear? All I want is for immigrants to come legally and illegal aliens to pay the consquences for not doing so. How is that hate and fear? Nevermind, there is no point in discussing anything with you anymore. You obviously prefer illegal foreigners over American citzens. I have no use for people who don't respect our right to protect our borders from illegal immigration and toss out those who violate them. I won't be reponding to or reading your anti-American tripe anymore. So long!
 
Old 04-20-2012, 02:07 PM
 
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What about the Amish?

They are TERRIBLE at assimilation. They're insular. They've kept their language, customs and religion while living in this country for well over 200 years.
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