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2. If what you say is true, that is span of 8 years (17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24), 7 of which are adulthood. My educated guess is that there is a "bell curve" with the age going up, peaking, and then going down again.
I dont think we need to resort to attacking Trayvon. That, imo, is stooping to the level of liberal media. The bottom line is, Zimmerman, from what we know so far, has been truthful. The media tried hard to make it seem like he was a liar and guilty, but from what I see, I dont think there should even be a trial.
UNLESS there is some secret evidence we dont have clue about, how is this case worthy of tax payer money? Everything points to Zimmerman defending himself. Case closed.
Zimmerman 100% lied about:
How old he thought Trayvon was either when he called the police or when he "apologized" to his parents.
His assets at the bail hearing.
He also may well have lied when he said "OK" to the dispatcher when s/he told him not to follow Trayvon.
You just contradicted yourself. First you say that he can be convicted even if he is not lying - then you say the State wouldn't have filed charges unless they thought he was lying. Doesn't the state file charges because they think they can win a conviction? So, based on your own analysis - they don't need to think he lied in order to file charges.
By the way, thank you for listing all the reasons a person could be convicted without having lied - it saved me some work.
LOL There is no contradiction in what I said. The state filed charges because they believe, based upon the evidence they have, that Zimmerman is not telling the truth about self-defense/stand your ground....basically that he's lying about the reason he killed Trayvon. The state clearly believes they have enough evidence to support their charge and get a conviction. The state nor anyone else is ever 100% sure of a conviction.
There is nothing at all contradictory about the fact that the State files charges because they believe they can get a conviction, and the fact that sometimes innocent people are convicted of crimes they didn't commit. Sometimes guilty people are acquitted as well. Obviously the State goes to trial with as good a case as they think possible, yet, sometimes they don't succeed. So what?
Nothing contradictory about filing charges based on their best estimate of the evidence they have, and an innocent person being convicted. Or a guilty person being acquitted.
btw, you're pretty good at taking credit for information posted by other people....when you thank them for "saving you work." LOL Interesting face saving tactic.
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No, he was attacked and used his gun in self defense. The media has lied, doctored videos just so they can turn this into a racial case, when it is not. They do everything they can just so they can make money.
He was trained by the police so he can keep his neighborhood safe. I bet if he protected your family you'd be thankful for it.
No, he was attacked and used his gun in self defense.
Because he was trying to do a "job" he had NO business doing, one for which he had no training for, and one in which, if he had left it to law enforcement, who ARE trained, we would never have heard of either George Zimmerman OR Trayvon Martin and a family wouldn't be grieving for their dead son.
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He was trained by the police so he can keep his neighborhood safe.
He was not trained to pursue and apprehend people he thought "suspicious."
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I bet if he protected your family you'd be thankful for it.
There is NO evidence that anyone needed protection from Trayvon Martin.
Zimmerman, and Zimmerman alone, caused the tragic events of that night.
Notice the rates for 17 to 19 year olds. It is a sobering statistic. A lot of teenagers committing homicides.
Now for people who don't understand statistics:
6% of homicides are committed by people under 18
11% of homicides are committed by people 17-19. As the propensity to commit homicide seems to go up with age through age 24, one can safely assume that 18-19 year olds commit more homicides than 17 year olds.
People 20-24 commit 50% more homicides than people 17-19. People 25-29 commit approximately the same number of homicides as 17-19 year olds.
Because he was trying to do a "job" he had NO business doing, one for which he had no training for, and one in which, if he had left it to law enforcement, who ARE trained, we would never have heard of either George Zimmerman OR Trayvon Martin and a family wouldn't be grieving for their dead son.
He was not trained to pursue and apprehend people he thought "suspicious."
There is NO evidence that anyone needed protection from Trayvon Martin.
Zimmerman, and Zimmerman alone, caused the tragic events of that night.
I agree with everything except the last line. Martin reacted wrongly to the actions of an idiot and got himself killed. It usually takes two to tango. Zimmerman was stupid, but stupidity ain't a crime.
ONE TIME. Do you have proof of any other intentional change in evidence which has been released to the public via court documents, recordings?
Proof of intentional "doctoring of evidence" by the media in this case would surely be easy to find because all the evidence is available via court file. Pretty easy to compare and contrast.
I agree with everything except the last line. Martin reacted wrongly to the actions of an idiot and got himself killed. It usually takes two to tango. Zimmerman was stupid, but stupidity ain't a crime.
Sometimes stupidity causes a crime......state of mind.
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Or a guilty person being acquitted.