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Old 04-24-2012, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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Originally Posted by Zimbochick View Post
So you are walking down the street at night, some guy starts to follow you. What would you do? Be honest now, think back to your 17 year-old self.
That's a no-brainer. Since, in this case, the father's house was so close, I'd run like hell and lock the door behind me.

 
Old 04-24-2012, 07:45 AM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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Depends on how long it takes for the autopsy report to come in...if Martin has no scratches but Zimmerman has signs, than it would help Zimmerman, otherwise it will help Martin.
How? Please explain.
 
Old 04-24-2012, 08:02 AM
 
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How? Please explain.
Dealing with what is Probable, not possible or definite.

GZ was bleeding from the nose and back of his head. It's possible he attacked tm 1st and left no marks, then tm retaliated with a punch to the nose. What is more Probable ? Not definite. Probable.
 
Old 04-24-2012, 08:08 AM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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That's a no-brainer. Since, in this case, the father's house was so close, I'd run like hell and lock the door behind me.
Ok fair enough, but what if the person follows you home? In Trayvon's case the only ones home was him and his little brother
 
Old 04-24-2012, 08:14 AM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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Dealing with what is Probable, not possible or definite.

GZ was bleeding from the nose and back of his head. It's possible he attacked tm 1st and left no marks, then tm retaliated with a punch to the nose. What is more Probable ? Not definite. Probable.
I asked because reports from the morgue showeed that there were no visable marks on Trayvon's hands or any other indication of a fight.

I wondered if the wounds on zimmerman were not self inflicted, since there was no blood on his clothes at the time that he came in for questioning.
 
Old 04-24-2012, 08:31 AM
 
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Ok fair enough, but what if the person follows you home? In Trayvon's case the only ones home was him and his little brother
Are you sure Trayvon had a little/younger brother ? I know he had an older brother who from pics looks decent size himself.

I'll wait for the autopsy, not the funeral director. I can see how this will go. If tm had no bruises or marks on his hands, he probably didn't punch gz. If he has bruises or marks on his hands, he might have punched gz, but only to protect himself.

No blood on gz's clothes is an issue, if in fact there was no blood. Again, I won't go by the jailhouse video. More docs should be released soon, maybe shedding light on injuries/blood.
 
Old 04-24-2012, 08:35 AM
 
Location: NC
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Are you sure Trayvon had a little/younger brother ? I know he had an older brother who from pics looks decent size himself.

I'll wait for the autopsy, not the funeral director. I can see how this will go. If tm had no bruises or marks on his hands, he probably didn't punch gz. If he has bruises or marks on his hands, he might have punched gz, but only to protect himself.

No blood on gz's clothes is an issue, if in fact there was no blood. Again, I won't go by the jailhouse video. More docs should be released soon, maybe shedding light on injuries/blood.
I guess you haven't seen the verified photo? Taken by a witness 3 minutes after of bleeding wounds on the back of GZ's head.
 
Old 04-24-2012, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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You also have to understand this is the internet. People can hide behind a screen name and not have to look anyone in the eye and express their true opinion.
Yes...it takes great character, integrity and courage to do that, doesn't it? Sadly, such posturing makes it impossible to have a constructive dialogue about serious issues. OTOH, I'd rather have them attacking me here than beating their SOs or children at home.
 
Old 04-24-2012, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I asked because reports from the morgue showeed that there were no visable marks on Trayvon's hands or any other indication of a fight.

I wondered if the wounds on zimmerman were not self inflicted, since there was no blood on his clothes at the time that he came in for questioning.
Untrue. It was the funeral director who said that. He (FD) was much discredited by the GZ supporters for saying so in a previous thread.

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I guess you haven't seen the verified photo? Taken by a witness 3 minutes after of bleeding wounds on the back of GZ's head.
That video was in no way verified. ABC News, which posted it, called it "alleged".
 
Old 04-24-2012, 08:47 AM
 
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I guess you haven't seen the verified photo? Taken by a witness 3 minutes after of bleeding wounds on the back of GZ's head.
Until that photo is 'verified,' who took it when, it has the same importance as the 'voice experts'--- zero.

I trust what the cop said in his report--- gz was bleeding from the nose and back of the head, appeared to have grass stains on clothes. For me, it's probable, not merely possible, not up to definite, that tm started the physical fight with a punch to the nose.
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