Trayvon Martin Case Updates: 2 Judges Recuse, "graphic pictures" of Zimmerman's Injuries, Bond set at $150K (constitutional, legal)
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The things I wonder about are just how suspicious did Trayvon look.
I understand what you are saying. Basically, we just don't know. However, if he was doing something wrong, I think Zimmerman would gave been more specific. He described Martin as walking in the rain and looking around, but he never said he was looking into the homes. It was dark and began to rain, so it's possible he was lost and was using the clubhouse as a landmark. His father could have told him, if you get turned around, always go to the clubhouse, usually the largest building in a development, which is where he was when Zimmerman first made the call. It also started to rain and, since Martin was on foot, he also could have been trying to stay dry. I suppose we can think of many reasons he "acted suspiciously" if someone wants to paint a picture of a criminal. However, he was found without any weapons on him and phone logs prove he was chatting with a 16 year old girl in Miami. It's all perception. What I don't hear in the 911 call is that he's talking on his cell phone. Unless I'm wrong, the timeline indicates Martin was talking to Dee Dee during Zimmerman's 911 call.
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Originally Posted by Icy Tea
Manslaughter seemed to be the charge that best seemed to fit. But now the prosecutors have gotten suckered into this quagmire like the rest of us.
Not really. In Florida the jury can convict a person on a lesser charge if so instructed. Look at the Casey Anthony 1st degree murder trial. When the jury returned with its verdict, they found her not guilty of first-degree murder, aggravated manslaughter and aggravated child abuse. She was convicted on 4 counts of lying to the detectives who questioned her about the disappearance of Caylee and got time served. The 2nd degree murder charge might be to frighten Zimmerman so he'll cop a plea. Again, we just don't know.
The exact legal definition varies from state to state, but all states now have some kind of law against stalking. Virtually any unwanted contact between a stalker and their victim which directly or indirectly communicates a threat or places the victim in fear can generally be referred to as stalking, whether or not it meets a state's exact legal definition.
If they compromise, it will be on manslaughter. Clearly, like whogo, you haven't read the timeline link nor the link of possible charges that FF5000
posted, or you'd have a much better information base on which to base your opinions.
Neither ff5000 nor anyone else knows how many or which lesser included offenses will be in the jury instructions.
LOL! "Railroading?" How do you railroad a killer? Anything that happens to a vigilante with hollow point bullets who kills a teenager is JUSTICE. There is no official report of Trayvon attempting to strike a bus driver; that would have certainly led to punishment. The rest of the post has no bearing on this case. That's common when one's losing a debate and has no concrete basis for their opinions.
Yes, you can railroad someone who kills in self-defense.
Last edited by CaseyB; 04-29-2012 at 12:56 PM..
Reason: discuss the topic, not others
The exact legal definition varies from state to state, but all states now have some kind of law against stalking. Virtually any unwanted contact between a stalker and their victim which directly or indirectly communicates a threat or places the victim in fear can generally be referred to as stalking, whether or not it meets a state's exact legal definition.
Fl. definition of stalking--- '(2) Any person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks another person commits the offense of stalking...'
That's a good article. I read soon as you posted the link.
Reading the def of murder 2 again reminded me of how weak the affadavit was, which reminded me of why I think they'll want multiple lesser includeds.
I agree that the state has more than revealed. They'd better, or this prosecution for murder 2 is an abuse of the judicial system.
It's the same source I used to post the timeline of events earlier in this thread. The problem is that the law is never black & white..or maybe it is. Why would a man who shot an unarmed teenager to death be released on self defense, but this woman got 20 years for firing a shot into the air to scare her abusive husband?
[url=http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/27/stand-your-ground-plea-rejected-in-florida/?hpt=ac_mid]"Stand your ground" double standard in Florida? – Anderson Cooper 360 - CNN.com Blogs[/url]
This woman shot her husband after he tried to strangle her, or so she claims. She might be lying, but he wasn't even injured. Maybe it's because she went back into the house? Still, 20 years seems like a very severe penalty if nobody was hurt.
Fl. definition of stalking--- '(2) Any person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks another person commits the offense of stalking...'
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