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Old 05-28-2012, 12:13 PM
 
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If I ever decide to choose the criminal career path I will make sure to carry Skittles with me at all times as evidence of my innocent nature.
Come on. Clearly, if you followed Trayvon's path, you'd be dead. There's absolutely no evidence of any criminal path by Trayvon. No convictions or arrests.

 
Old 05-28-2012, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Houston
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"Sweet Little Trayvon"? Is that your real issue? You think there was something "wrong" with Trayvon? What might that be?
I am sure Trayvon will achieve sainthood any day now. What is the Vatican waiting on?
 
Old 05-28-2012, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Come on. Clearly, if you followed Trayvon's path, you'd be dead. There's absolutely no evidence of any criminal path by Trayvon. No convictions or arrests.
I am not going to beat up on Trayvon. He had some problems. Most 17 year olds grow out of their problems.

What I am saying is Trayvon was not killed for wearing a hoodie. He was not killed for being black. He was not killled because he had Skittles and tea. He was killed for beating up Zimmermen.
 
Old 05-28-2012, 12:39 PM
 
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I am not going to beat up on Trayvon. He had some problems. Most 17 year olds grow out of their problems.

What I am saying is Trayvon was not killed for wearing a hoodie. He was not killed for being black. He was not killled because he had Skittles and tea. He was killed for beating up Zimmermen.
At the moment, with what we know now, that seems like the case; of course, it remains to be seen whether or not Zimmerman can prove that in his self defense case or if the State can prove otherwise.

I'm still wondering whether or not, under SYG, someone can instigate a fight, then shoot and kill the person if they are on the losing end of the fight. My big issue is with SYG. And I'm wondering what the courts will see as behavior "instigating" a fight.
 
Old 05-28-2012, 12:45 PM
 
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I am sure Trayvon will achieve sainthood any day now. What is the Vatican waiting on?
It's not that Trayvon was a "saint"......it's that some people seem to have issues regarding him that's beyond me. I'm wondering what that is and why.

Some disputes seem to be about who started the fight. I'm interested in what the court will find constitutes "instigating the fight" in this case. Can someone instigate a fight with another person, be on the losing end of the fight, and legitimately fear for their life, then therfore be justified in shooting and killing that person?
 
Old 05-28-2012, 02:53 PM
 
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It's not that Trayvon was a "saint"......it's that some people seem to have issues regarding him that's beyond me. I'm wondering what that is and why.

Some disputes seem to be about who started the fight. I'm interested in what the court will find constitutes "instigating the fight" in this case. Can someone instigate a fight with another person, be on the losing end of the fight, and legitimately fear for their life, then therfore be justified in shooting and killing that person?
We know for a fact that under the regular self defense law a person who is the aggressor, initially provokes the use of force against himself, may use deadly force if he reasonably believes that he is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm And has exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger.

You think syg Limits an initial aggressor's right to use deadly force ?
 
Old 05-28-2012, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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I am not going to beat up on Trayvon. He had some problems. Most 17 year olds grow out of their problems.

What I am saying is Trayvon was not killed for wearing a hoodie. He was not killed for being black. He was not killled because he had Skittles and tea. He was killed for beating up Zimmermen.
Aw, Jeez, didja have to go and say that? You'll wind them up again. Another 100 pages and they still won't get it. I doubt they ever will, even after Zimm gets his NOT GUILTY verdict.
 
Old 05-28-2012, 06:47 PM
 
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Aw, Jeez, didja have to go and say that? You'll wind them up again. Another 100 pages and they still won't get it. I doubt they ever will, even after Zimm gets his NOT GUILTY verdict.
Yes I think we are dangerously close to starting a religion here. "in those days Trayvon the pure and innocent was slain by Zimmerman the evil one". Liberal dichotomy 3:16.
 
Old 05-29-2012, 04:57 AM
 
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Yes I think we are dangerously close to starting a religion here. "in those days Trayvon the pure and innocent was slain by Zimmerman the evil one". Liberal dichotomy 3:16.
So true

Thumbs up.
 
Old 05-29-2012, 08:46 AM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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That's not relevant!!!!!!!!! Or so say the Trayvoniacs.
Because it is not relevant as to what happened that night!!!

If you beat up your sister when you were 15 is that relevant to you getting into a fight with a woman 10 years later?

Ok, if you want to make it relevant you should include the fact that zimmerman was on medications at the time AND he has a history of racist remarks AND violence
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