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There is a huge glut in the natural gas supply at this point in time. We have way more gas than we are using and the prices are at rock bottom. You would think the industry themselves would stop the fracking. It's not profitable at all. We don't allow any fracking in this province because we know for 100% sure it pollutes the ground water horribly and causes other well documented geologic problems. Now, if you want them shaking up your house and polluting your water and environment for gas that is surlus to needs then, Go ahead, make my day but don't do it in my neck of the woods!!!
That's why other countries are going like gang busters on production. CNG cars, trucks and buses are growing in numbers, gas versions can be converted to run on either. Homes are heated with gas and industry uses gas or can be converted. This is a energy source that can be greatly expanded.
That's why other countries are going like gang busters on production. CNG cars, trucks and buses are growing in numbers, gas versions can be converted to run on either. Homes are heated with gas and industry uses gas or can be converted. This is a energy source that can be greatly expanded.
For sure it can be but it really isn't happening very fast at all. In the 80's and 90's there were thousands of dual gasoline, natural gas GM vecicles on the road around here but now you never see then except cabs and some police cars. I think one of the biggest obsticle to converting things to NG is KING COAL. The first and most obvious use for all the NG is electrical generation and the closing down of the coal burners. There is where you hit a roadblock because in your country the coal lobby is KING.
Here in Ontario where the coal lobby is nonexistent we are closing down every single one of those throwbacks to an earlier age that dispoil everything they touch.
I have lived in quite a few rural areas here and I have always had a gas main passing my house. I don't see that too much in the USA and a lot of people are still burning oil for heat. I really feel sorry for them it costs so much.
There is a huge glut in the natural gas supply at this point in time. We have way more gas than we are using and the prices are at rock bottom. You would think the industry themselves would stop the fracking. It's not profitable at all. We don't allow any fracking in this province because we know for 100% sure it pollutes the ground water horribly and causes other well documented geologic problems. Now, if you want them shaking up your house and polluting your water and environment for gas that is surlus to needs then, Go ahead, make my day but don't do it in my neck of the woods!!!
They are indeed astoundingly uninformed about how government works and established precedent.
Problem is most people now see the Govt as trying to take too much control and they screw up just about everything they try to Fix. Their credibility is shot for doing anything that makes sense or doing it in a cost effective manner.
There are serious trust issues with the common man and our Federal Govt. Especially with Obama as President.
Problem is most people now see the Govt as trying to take too much control and they screw up just about everything they try to Fix. Their credibility is shot for doing anything that makes sense or doing it in a cost effective manner.
There are serious trust issues with the common man and our Federal Govt. Especially with Obama as President.
Just who is this mythical "common man?" From what I see around here and in my personal life, he seems to be white and middle aged almost exclusively.
Problem is most people now see the Govt as trying to take too much control and they screw up just about everything they try to Fix. Their credibility is shot for doing anything that makes sense or doing it in a cost effective manner.
There are serious trust issues with the common man and our Federal Govt. Especially with Obama as President.
That has less to do with Obama's competence and more to do with right-wing ideology. The Bush Admin was about as incompetent as they come and the right-wing kept their mouth's shut if he proposed a regulation.
Republicans have bought into the myth that the government can do no good, only harm. Sure, Bush believed this and appointed a horse show judge as head of FEMA, and FEMA failed, making it a self-fulling prophecy. Clinton believed that government could help people and appointed a competent FEMA leader that expertly managed several natural disasters.
Regarding this thread, the EPA has successfully reduced air pollution by 97% from 1960s levels and similarly with water pollution. When I was a boy, Lake Erie was so polluted that it would catch fire. The EPA is hardly a "screw up" organization.
What has happened to the Republican Party is a quantum shift from a reasonable party -- whose president created the EPA, to one controlled by right-wing fanatics that really do see taxes and regulation as tyrannical impositions on their liberty -- even if it means allowing industry to dump toxic levels of pollutants into the environment causing public harm. Thus, any effort to impose even the most sensible regulation is met with a automatic reflex knee-jerk from the right.
The Obama natural gas drilling regulation makes a great deal of sense, as this NPR article (http://www.npr.org/2012/04/18/150890137/epa-to-slash-air-pollution-from-natural-gas-wells - broken link) describes the E.O. contents:
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The Obama administration on Wednesday set the first-ever national standards to control air pollution from gas wells that are drilled using a method called hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, but not without making concessions to the oil and gas industry.
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"By ensuring the capture of gases that were previously released to pollute our air and threaten our climate, these updated standards will protect our health, but also lead to more product for fuel suppliers to bring to market," said EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson in a statement.
Much of the air pollution from fracked gas wells is vented when the well transitions from drilling to actual production, a three- to 10-day process which is referred to as "completion." An earlier version of the rule limiting air pollution from gas wells would have required companies to install pollution-reducing equipment immediately after the rule was finalized.
Drillers now will be given more than two years to employ technology to reduce emissions of smog- and soot-forming pollutants during that stage. The Environmental Protection Agency will require drillers to burn off gas in the meantime, an alternative that can release smog-forming nitrogen oxides, but will still slash overall emissions.
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Besides the new standards for oil and gas wells, the EPA also on Wednesday updated existing rules for natural gas processing plants, storage tanks and transmission lines that will reduce amounts of cancer-causing air pollution, such as benzene, and also reduce methane — the main ingredient in natural gas, but also one of the most potent global warming gases.
... Since companies could capture the natural gas and sell it, the EPA estimates that they would save about $11 million - $19 million a year starting in 2015.
Oh, you spell his name and not capitalize it. Such a devastating disrespect!
First off, we have a GLUT of natural gas in this country. If any energy source can be regulated for safety and as the story says to ensure safety and environmental responsibility then the natural gas production business is a good place to start.
Secondly, I wish you republicans would quit acting like spoiled children on this site. I can predict the first five responses just by reading the thread title.
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