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Old 04-19-2012, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Since you have been answered many, many times before, real question is, why would you ask again? It is clear you don't want an answer.

 
Old 04-19-2012, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Point Hope Alaska
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Let's talk "FAIR SHARE" for a moment.

How can anyone logically argue for the rich to "pay their fair share" of federal income taxes when in fact 47% of American's pay ZERO federal income taxes?

Yes, most people pay payroll taxes (Social Security, Medicare, etc). Those monies go to fund specific priorities, so there's no need for the obtuse to come forth and deflect. We're talking Federal INCOME taxes.....the money that goes to fund the public goods and services that we American's consume.

How is it "FAIR" that millions of a American's pay ZERO in light of the current class warfare schtick being pushed by the Left?

Where's the "fairness?"
If you have a job you have to pay federal income tax!

I know people that only make 18,000 per year; they still have to pay federal income tax!

People that are paid minimum wage must pay federal income tax!

Quit believing that 47% don't pay any. EVERYONE that works must pay; If you don't work or earn under a certain amount per year - there is no federal
income tax.

Find out the true facts and quit believing lying politicians that just love to twist the facts and jumble the numbers to make their (lying ) point seem plausible.

93% of all the federal money received from people paying taxes is from people making over 50K per year.
 
Old 04-19-2012, 09:19 AM
 
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We're heard the narrative before, that there's a vast stream of federal money going to people who are sitting on their a$$es eating Cheetos instead of going out and earning a living instead. These people are being bred into dependence on Uncle Sam's tit and having their work ethics destroyed.

The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities decided to add up the numbers and figure out how much money the federal government spends on the nonworking poor. The answer: about 10 percent of all federal welfare spending.

Contrary to "Entitlement Society" Rhetoric, Over Nine-Tenths of Entitlement Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households
That's not what he said. He said that the lower income demographic get the vast majority of services provided by taxpayers, which does not necessarily mean "sitting on their a$$es eating Cheetohs instead of going out and earning a living instead." Working households are very much apart of that demographic.

But for some reason, that's not what you got out of it. So we get another one of your massive deflective fails.

Is it possible for you to not deflect? Just once in your entire career on this forum?
 
Old 04-19-2012, 09:21 AM
 
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It's not important considering those funds go to specific priorities. What part of that did you not understand?
The part where you ignore all the other aspects of the Federal Government's operations.

Basically, as long as we have regressive monetary policy, we need to have progressive tax policy. Furthermore, what some are arguing is that our tax policy isn't all that progressive in the first place. I would agree.
 
Old 04-19-2012, 09:22 AM
 
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If you have a job you have to pay federal income tax!

I know people that only make 18,000 per year; they still have to pay federal income tax!

People that are paid minimum wage must pay federal income tax!

Quit believing that 47% don't pay any. EVERYONE that works must pay; If you don't work or earn under a certain amount per year - there is no federal
income tax.

Find out the true facts and quit believing lying politicians that just love to twist the facts and jumble the numbers to make their (lying ) point seem plausible.

93% of all the federal money received from people paying taxes is from people making over 50K per year.
Oh my goodness. I won't even waste my time with this one.
 
Old 04-19-2012, 09:23 AM
 
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The part where you ignore all the other aspects of the Federal Government's operations.

Basically, as long as we have regressive monetary policy, we need to have progressive tax policy.
You've already been called out twice for being obtuse. Why must this continue?
 
Old 04-19-2012, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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So you're saying that lower income people should have no skin in the game? After payroll taxes, they should get a free ride for the rest of America's bounty?
The claim that only rich people pay taxes is a zombie lie — something that keeps coming back no matter how many times it’s killed by evidence. Low income earners have "skin in the game."

Citizens for Tax Justice (pdf) has the goods: combining all taxes, federal, state, and local, we get this:



The overall system is barely progressive at all. For all those championing the Flat-Tax -- WE ALREADY HAVE IT! Everyone roughly pays taxes in proportion to their earnings.

The people peddling this stuff about those who don’t pay tax because their incomes are low know all this, because it has been pointed out many times. These people are deliberately trying to deceive the public for their own self-serving motives -- they want the poor to pay more so the affluent pay less.
 
Old 04-19-2012, 09:24 AM
 
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You've already been called out twice for being obtuse. Why must this continue?
Obtuse? I'm not the one pretending that F.I.T. exists in some kind of vacuum.
 
Old 04-19-2012, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I believe the bottom 90% should be exempt from Federal Income Tax and the Social Security Tax be applied to all income, including Capital Gains, from all sources. This should apply to the Income Tax as well.

This way the people that own Congress and control the government would have to pay their fair share of maintaining their property. The rest of us would enjoy a 10 to 33% raise in spendable or saving income. It rich will complain but even after paying their fair share they will have enough to indulge in any debauchery, including stock speculation, they please.
 
Old 04-19-2012, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Let's talk "FAIR SHARE" for a moment.
How can anyone logically argue for the rich to "pay their fair share" of federal income taxes when in fact 47% of American's pay ZERO federal income taxes?
Does this percentage include millionaires that fall in that category? I must because of this statement of yours accusing others of class warfare...

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Originally Posted by AeroGuyDC View Post
How is it "FAIR" that millions of a American's pay ZERO in light of the current class warfare schtick being pushed by the Left?
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