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Old 04-19-2012, 02:28 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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Originally Posted by EinsteinsGhost View Post
Thank you. Now, where does this law require people to carry proof of citizenship, and that people can't assemble/visit such places without it? Who do you expect to enforce the law? At what time?


And your conclusion comes directly from the blog you linked. To begin with, you do realize that this job fair open to everybody (not just illegal immigrants, that you and your link focuses on). To top it off, you assumed "immigration issues" = "illegal immigration". Didn't you?

There's a political pandering for that.
So when have you ever heard that someone with "immigration issues" is here legally? If someone has "issues" with their "immigration status" that means THERE'S A PROBLEM AND THAT MEANS ILLEGAL.

If someone is here illegally and they're attending a job fair for the specific purpose of obtaining employment, and the employers ask them to fill out proper paperwork and show I.D., and they don't have a photo id, SS Card, or Green Card etc... Which they're supposed to have for employment then they should be verified or if they can't be verified then rounded up and deported.
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Old 04-19-2012, 02:30 PM
 
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Hey Brah, this is not your business to worry about, please find something else to concern yourself with.
Thank you.
Why is not our business that some unethical morons are encouraging foreign nationals to break our immigration and employment laws? There's nothing humanitarian about encouraging what amounts to the underclass from the world's 12th largest economy to come here and bid down wages for our own struggling impoverished peoples. Or encouraging said underclass to come here and overcrowd our schools and increase taxes on our middle class so as to prop up dictators across the border and greedy employers here at home.
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Old 04-19-2012, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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This is truly unbelievable, what does the government do when garbage like this goes on right under their noses? NOTHING.

ICE should have been there with a bus to round up everyone who showed up without a legal right to be in the United States.






Job fair held for illegal aliens in Va. town

Why the outrage?
I think it is a pretty good ruse to draw people out into the open, get their contact info and round them up later.
If ICE had been there out in the open, what is the likelihood that people would have been forthcoming with their info?

Seriously, people just cannot see the forest for the trees anymore.
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Old 04-19-2012, 02:33 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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Why the outrage?
I think it is a pretty good ruse to draw people out into the open, get their contact info and round them up later.
If ICE had been there out in the open, what is the likelihood that people would have been forthcoming with their info?

Seriously, people just cannot see the forest for the trees anymore.
Our (Secret Service) can't even pull off a clandestine romp with prostitutes in Columbia, how the hell can you imagine that The Feds/ICE could be smart enough to pull off something like that? Far too simple. It reminds me of those contests that some sheriff departments would have where they'd invite a slew of parole violators and round them all up into a gymnasium "to claim their prize" and then shuttle them all back to the pokey.
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Old 04-19-2012, 02:38 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Why the outrage?
I think it is a pretty good ruse to draw people out into the open, get their contact info and round them up later.
If ICE had been there out in the open, what is the likelihood that people would have been forthcoming with their info?

Seriously, people just cannot see the forest for the trees anymore.
what on earth makes you think that's their plan here?
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Old 04-19-2012, 02:38 PM
 
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If they're advertising to outlaws then yes, they should check their identification and if they have none, they should be deported.
Interesting. What ID would an American use to prove their citizen status?
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Old 04-19-2012, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Our (Secret Service) can't even pull off a clandestine romp with prostitutes in Columbia, how the hell can you imagine that The Feds/ICE could be smart enough to pull off something like that?
Ah, Ye Olde "Paint with a Wide Brush" rebuttal.

I suppose by your reasoning those Marines that were photographed next to those body parts represent every single service member now serving in the Armed Forces?

'Kay.

Anyway, the Feds are doing a great job cracking down on Medicare fraud. That is the example I chose to use for reference.
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Old 04-19-2012, 02:44 PM
 
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If they're advertising to outlaws then yes, they should check their identification and if they have none, they should be deported.
I'm not so comfortable with a country that goes around like old Soviet-bloc asking people for their papers without evidence of misdeed, and to me attending a job fair that is aimed at a lot of different people doesn't qualify. If there is evidence an employer knowingly hires illegals fine raid the place and check the status of the dishwasher. Catch a group of guys running from the bushes in Nogales fine check their status. Someone applying for benefits that only US citizens are eligible definitely make sure they qualify.

But "stop! your papers please" at a job fair doesn't fly. What next staking out the waiting rooms of immigration lawyers?
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Old 04-19-2012, 02:51 PM
 
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you must have missed the word 'illegal' in my short, one sentence post. how odd.
Not in the least bit, that is why I read your link and then went to the actual site where the event was advertised and OBVIOUSLY you didn't because "illegal" and "hiring" are no where to be found!

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are they advising illegal immigrants how to circumvent the law? if so, then hell yes it's aiding and abetting.
Oh, since you can't defend your egregiously false thread you now want to make a great leap of supposition!

How odd indeed!
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Old 04-19-2012, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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So when have you ever heard that someone with "immigration issues" is here legally? If someone has "issues" with their "immigration status" that means THERE'S A PROBLEM AND THAT MEANS ILLEGAL.
No, it doesn't. But I can't blame you for not knowing that. It is the media, our sources, that are, who are invested in practically non-sense. How about someone with an expiring visa but an application in process? Illegal, or legal? Immigration issue, yes? Do you consider legally allowed refugees (but not yet citizens) as illegals and disallow idea of them seeking work?

The issue of immigration status comes AFTER the fact, when the job is actually discussed and agreed upon, by those hiring and applying.
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