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Old 04-20-2012, 12:32 PM
 
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This is VERY telling. Basically, the United States Government could have recouped $2.5 Billion IN PENALTIES ALONE from the states for "erroneous" food stamp payments. In other words, fraud, waste, and abuse is rampant if the PENALTIES ALONE would bring in billions of dollars. That doesn't even account for the value of the erroneous payment! BILLIONS!

Nauseating!
May you someday go to bed hungry night after night, and not by choice, but because you cannot afford to buy enough food.....and you will learn what real nausea is all about. Talk is cheap.
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Old 04-20-2012, 12:33 PM
 
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Fraud is not money well spent. Encouraging people who are not truly in need to enroll for food stamps (example: Obama administration's push to enroll college students) is NOT money well spent.

Food stamp fraud all the rage on Twitter | Twitchy
Since you are up to speed on this; how about you giving us the numbers of those legitimately drawing food stamps.
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Old 04-20-2012, 12:34 PM
 
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Speaking of fraud, lets go line by line through the DoD budget.
Lets go line by line through the Obama administration's actual expenditures starting wth the White House!

There is little doubt we will find much fraud, waste & abuse in all government expenditures. However, IIRC, the actual thread topic is FOOD STAMPS.

Try to focus.
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Old 04-20-2012, 12:35 PM
 
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I thought the economy has improved since 2007 because Obama saved us all, but according to the figures, we're 150% worse. Which is it?
The economy has been getting steadily worse, less a few bubbles, since the 70s. Anyone saying otherwise is a partisan.
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Old 04-20-2012, 12:35 PM
 
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I don't have a problem with someone who needs food stamps. I have a problem with the rampant fraud, waste, and abuse. I'm all for taking extreme measures to combat this problem, including restructuring the entire program from the bottom up. If that means fewer people on the government teat, so be it. If legitimate need exists, you'll eat. If not, you'll be forced to pay back the value of your past payments in which you defrauded the taxpayers.
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Old 04-20-2012, 12:36 PM
 
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Since you are up to speed on this; how about you giving us the numbers of those legitimately drawing food stamps.
YOU should know by now I don't provide you with any welfare. Do your own homework.
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Old 04-20-2012, 12:36 PM
 
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May you someday go to bed hungry night after night, and not by choice, but because you cannot afford to buy enough food.....and you will learn what real nausea is all about. Talk is cheap.
Considering that you responsed to my post regarding fraud, waste, and abuse, I can only conclude that you somehow correlate FWAB with actually going hungry. It wouldn't be FWAB it the food stamps were legitmately needed. Right?

If you're going to bed hungry, go get food stamps. I'm quite positive you won't be denied if your financial situation allows it.

Go get fed. Nothing is stopping you.
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Old 04-20-2012, 12:38 PM
 
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72 Billion? That's 10% of the Defense budget.

Money well spent, compared to that bloated immoral criminal amount of Defense spending.


Is it like a requirement of right wingers not to be able to prioritize or put things into perspective?
But that is just one part of the cost of welfare system. But I thnik we can wait and see who screams when defense cuts mean huge numbers of jobs cuts . We saw just that when democrats screamed on base clsoings.Alot of areras with military bases are going to lose large part of their local ecnomy beased on defense spending.One has to remmeber that the military budget counter to speial apporpreated war spending goesd directly into thne economy at home thru jobs both on bases and thru contractors.
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Old 04-20-2012, 12:38 PM
 
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I don't have a problem with someone who needs food stamps. I have a problem with the rampant fraud, waste, and abuse. I'm all for taking extreme measures to combat this problem, including restructuring the entire program from the bottom up. If that means fewer people on the government teat, so be it. If legitimate need exists, you'll eat. If not, you'll be forced to pay back the value of your past payments in which you defrauded the taxpayers.
Every large public or private enterprise has fraud.

The thing about you.

You have not earthly clue how big the fraud problem with welfare.

You just repeat story lines you get from right wing propagandists.
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Old 04-20-2012, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Miami, Florida
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I don't have a problem with someone who needs food stamps. I have a problem with the rampant fraud, waste, and abuse. I'm all for taking extreme measures to combat this problem, including restructuring the entire program from the bottom up. If that means fewer people on the government teat, so be it. If legitimate need exists, you'll eat. If not, you'll be forced to pay back the value of your past payments in which you defrauded the taxpayers.
The truth is that fraud and waste are not rampant in this system. These claims are just conservative lies designed to make people hate poor people instead of our wealthy oppressors.

I say we investigate the wealthy and take what they don’t need of their hands, first!
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