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And you would quickly lose your argument, along with any university funding... you may not like it, but those are the rules!
I'm rather proud of the fact that I've progressed beyond this preconventional state of moral reasoning, thank you. You stay right where you are. I'll not relapse
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Originally Posted by gizmo980
Chances are a devout Christian wouldn't want to join your group anyway, but you still must give them the option. As I already mentioned, we had a few non-Jews in my Hillel group, and they were both welcomed and valued.
Irrelevant. Does no one except the OP and myself understand the concept of what a club even is? It's exclusive by its very nature, always has been
I think this school needs to go back to school.
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Originally Posted by robbobobbo
It's for a university club and as such, must follow the university guidelines.
Which. Are. Stupid Again, we're all aware of what the situation is. Obviously, a few of us believe it should be something different. Is that okay with you?
Which. Are. Stupid Again, we're all aware of what the situation is. Obviously, a few of us believe it should be something different. Is that okay with you?
I don't think it's ok for a university club to practice religious discrimination, no.
So what is next ;not having to be a football player or play golf to be on the fottball or golf team. This is the crazy stuff some idot hinks of whan he is stillig i a office think about BS.
"Forcing them to allow any student to become a leader regardless of belief can imperil their very existence. For instance, imagine that a ten-person College Socialists group exists on campus. One day, a group of twenty College Republicans shows up for the meeting, votes itself into the leadership by virtue of its superior numbers, and effectively disbands the group."[/b]
Don't you think a concerted effort by students to undermine and subvert a university club would run afoul of most universities' code of conduct? From the looks of Vanderbilt's student handbook, it seems there would be grounds for a complaint that the students didn't act in good faith and didn't respect the other students.
I don't think it's ok for a university club to practice religious discrimination, no.
Therein lies the problem. Discrimination is justified if the undesired characteristics conflict with the mission or interests of the discriminatory group. Not being a Christian conflicts with the mission and interests of a Christian club, and it'd be particularly unwise to allow someone who doesn't represent them lead them.
Many have indicated that it'd suddenly be fine if they prevented a non-Christian from leadership in their club through an election process (be it for the same reason, mind you). But how is it any different? Is it not just another form of "religious discrimination" to say "This person isn't even a Christian, so I'm not voting for them"? Am I right to suspect it's just that we want our discrimination well-hidden?
Then what's with the air of nobility on this thread?
Don't you think a concerted effort by students to undermine and subvert a university club would run afoul of most universities' code of conduct? From the looks of Vanderbilt's student handbook, it seems there would be grounds for a complaint that the students didn't act in good faith and didn't respect the other students.
And with this concludes any possible merit to the OP's argument. Well done!
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Again, we're all aware of what the situation is. Obviously, a few of us believe it should be something different. Is that okay with you?
Fixed it.
