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Old 04-21-2012, 06:53 PM
 
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I did.

I hope I do this year too.

It would be nice if the government doesn't steal more of that away from me too, like they do with social security and income tax.
It's in the constitution. The government has the right to tax any income you earn.

That said, if you're trying to argue that the capital gains tax is a double, you're wrong. You're only being taxed on the additional money you earned, not the initial money you put up for the investment. It's like the government taxing a business on the additional profit they earn, not the money you earned before and put into the business' operations.
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Old 04-21-2012, 07:20 PM
 
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It's in the constitution. The government has the right to tax any income you earn.

That said, if you're trying to argue that the capital gains tax is a double, you're wrong. You're only being taxed on the additional money you earned, not the initial money you put up for the investment. It's like the government taxing a business on the additional profit they earn, not the money you earned before and put into the business' operations.
That's true, but they are limited to what they can spend on.

Therefore, our tax rates would be close to nothing.
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Old 04-21-2012, 07:29 PM
 
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That's true, but they are limited to what they can spend on.

Therefore, our tax rates would be close to nothing.
Link to back up your conclusion?
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Old 04-21-2012, 07:36 PM
 
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If you have a capital gain of $100k then you pay tax on $100k in the year the gain was realized.

If you have a capital loss of $100k then you get to write off just $3k in the year it was incurred

Sure, you can carry the $97k over for use against future gains. But it is still a case of heads the government wins and tails you lose.
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Old 04-21-2012, 08:02 PM
 
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It's in the constitution. The government has the right to tax any income you earn.

That said, if you're trying to argue that the capital gains tax is a double, you're wrong. You're only being taxed on the additional money you earned, not the initial money you put up for the investment. It's like the government taxing a business on the additional profit they earn, not the money you earned before and put into the business' operations.
Just saying I hope taxes don't increase. I pay plenty the way it is.
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Old 04-21-2012, 08:57 PM
 
Location: it depends
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Thanks for being a smart ass, it's really appreciated.
Sorry you took that the wrong way. What I meant was, I generally buy low and sell high, which requires people with your kind of investing skill to buy high or sell low. I'm sorry you're not doing it anymore. Really.

I guess I should be thankful that you aren't doing it my way.
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Old 04-21-2012, 09:03 PM
 
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Just saying I hope taxes don't increase. I pay plenty the way it is.
The Capital Gains and Income Tax Rates are at historic lows.

With the debt and deficit as high as it is, don't expect that to last too much longer.

AS for Social Security, you did get a tax cute.
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Old 04-21-2012, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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If you have a capital gain of $100k then you pay tax on $100k in the year the gain was realized.

If you have a capital loss of $100k then you get to write off just $3k in the year it was incurred

Sure, you can carry the $97k over for use against future gains. But it is still a case of heads the government wins and tails you lose.
Geez, you guys have to pay capital gains on 100%? Here in Canada we pay on 50% of gains at whatever income tax bracket we are in...
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Old 04-21-2012, 10:00 PM
 
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Invest in ways that defer your tax liabilities for the future. Been doing it for a decade now. Wealth has grown tremendously while I havent paid a dime in taxes..
Exactly. I've been enjoying regular gains while deferring taxes for years.

Of course, we don't have a 60" TV, the latest and greatest in electroninc toys or closets full of the latest fashions.

Oh well, my loss
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Old 04-21-2012, 10:12 PM
 
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Exactly. I've been enjoying regular gains while deferring taxes for years.

Of course, we don't have a 60" TV, the latest and greatest in electroninc toys or closets full of the latest fashions.

Oh well, my loss
I have all the latest and greatest, as I sit around I've got 32 computers humming, and the smallest tv in the house is now 65", with the the largest being 120".

I of course use them occasionally as monitors thus they are partially depreciable as business expenses, and even the house, which is 1/2 an office, becomes a write off
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