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Yes, we know, Harrier. You like playing sheriff and think that everyone should.
I don't know what "playing sheriff" means - I just want to know why people automatically think the only and best action to take in this situation was to call the police? People can and should handle things on their own and if that fails then as a matter of last resort - maybe you ask for help. The Canoles's should have never involved their weapons nor LE in this situation. They could have easily verified the Kalonji's story and ended this whole conflict peacefully. Why is that everyone wants to complicate matters by bringing in a third party?
If you think someone is committing a crime, you call the police and let them do their jobs. Law enforcement has the proper training and authority to investigate and take care of the situation.
If you think someone is committing a crime, you call the police...
We disagree. However if you would support your arguments with reasons why people should call LE in such a situation - I might be persuaded to your point of view.
Obviously, I believe in the rule of law and private property rights. You seem to think every idiot with a gun should have the authority to enter private property, assault and detain anyone they want anytime they want. Despite what you think, just because you live in the same neighborhood does not give you some type of special authority to enter someone else's property and act like Batman.
We disagree. However if you would support your arguments with reasons why people should call LE in such a situation - I might be persuaded to your point of view.
You can't be serious.
You think you are witnessing a crime in action, two options:
1. Call police and let the pros handle it
2. Grab a gun, enter private property, start your own investigation, assaulting anyone that gets in your way.
Obviously, I believe in the rule of law and private property rights. You seem to think every idiot with a gun should have the authority to enter private property, assault and detain anyone they want anytime they want.
No I believe in the rule of law and private property rights also - you might want to re-read this thread to get a better idea of my position on the Canoles' irresponsible actions - I'm tired of repeating things to people who have blocks in their head. However - I don't automatically think that law enforcement should be involved in every little thing that occurs - they are simply hired mercenaries that people pay to do dirty work for them - the courts are the venue where law is upheld - and any citizen can bring another to the court without a third party being involved.
I don't know what "playing sheriff" means - I just want to know why people automatically think the only and best action to take in this situation was to call the police? People can and should handle things on their own and if that fails then as a matter of last resort - maybe you ask for help. The Canoles's should have never involved their weapons nor LE in this situation. They could have easily verified the Kalonji's story and ended this whole conflict peacefully. Why is that everyone wants to complicate matters by bringing in a third party?
I can't tell if you are really this stupid or just being intentionally dense.
What part of not having the right to enter someone else's property and act like a super hero do you not understand?
The Canoles' should have never stepped foot on someone else's property.
You think you are witnessing a crime in action, two options:
1. Call police and let the pros handle it
2. Grab a gun, enter private property, start your own investigation, assaulting anyone that gets in your way.
Sigh - you obviously have not read this thread because if you did you would understand that I do not own a firearm, would NOT use a gun in the above scenario and absolutely without reservation do NOT condone the Canoles's actions. I also do not believe what they did contitutes a crime. Do some reading before jumping to conclusions and trying to paint me with ridiculous false dichotomies..
We disagree. However if you would support your arguments with reasons why people should call LE in such a situation - I might be persuaded to your point of view.
Now you're off on another crusade of Don Quixote proportions.
Duuh; if you suspect a crime is in progress the law requires you to report it. would that be a valid reason and we know you've defended the Canoles with the premise they genuinely thought a crime was in progress. So that's a done deal.
Now on to your other tid-bit; you disagree with the Conoles calling the cops.
Interesting because they did so in belief they were witnessing a crime in progress so, in essence, calling the cops is the ONLY thing they did correctly and legally. THAT'S the part you disagree with? Mmmmm .
Sigh - you obviously have not read this thread because if you did you would understand that I would do not own a firearm, would NOT use a gun in the above scenario and absolutely without reservation do NOT condone the Canoles's actions. I also do not believe what they did contitutes a crime. Do some reading before jumping to conclusions and trying to paint me with ridiculous false dichotomies..
I have read your other posts, the gun thing is just a strawman that you use when backed into a corner.
Please explain why you think trespassing, unlawful detention and assault with a deadly weapon are not crimes.
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