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Old 04-23-2012, 05:40 PM
 
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You're going to have to wait a hell of a long time before you will find a small govt. Democrat.

The thing that gets me is that Democrats know that they are going to get unsustainable spending from their candidates -- and they still keep electing them.

It really does make other Americans think poorly of Democrats.
Sad fact is Republicans are no different.

Politicians couldn't care less about representing us once they're elected to office, regardless of their declared party.

If we as a nation are to have any hope of regaining the freedoms we've lost we need to reject partisan crap and wake up to the fact the fight for freedom in our nation is between citizens and politicians.

Once you get past the rhetoric both parties are the same. Neither care about us once they've told enough lies that the ignorant and easily swayed have put them in office.
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Old 04-23-2012, 05:46 PM
 
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Sad fact is Republicans are no different.

Politicians couldn't care less about representing us once they're elected to office, regardless of their declared party.

If we as a nation are to have any hope of regaining the freedoms we've lost we need to reject partisan crap and wake up to the fact the fight for freedom in our nation is between citizens and politicians.

Once you get past the rhetoric both parties are the same. Neither care about us once they've told enough lies that the ignorant and easily swayed have put them in office.
Well for starters...

What do you say we get rid of Harry Reid?
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Old 04-23-2012, 05:56 PM
 
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Well for starters...

What do you say we get rid of Harry Reid?
I'd love to get rid of Harry. Sadly, based upon the distribution of the population in my state we'd have to give Las Vegas and Reno to California to get it done.

Despite my beliefs with regard to the issue and my fervent wish that neither Vegas nor Reno be allowed to pervert the votes of those of us that inhabit the vast majority of Nevada's geographic land mass it's unlikely to happen.

Out of curiosity, do the votes in your state always reflect your beliefs and desires?

As an aside, why hide so much of your personal info that no one can determine where you call home?
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Old 05-07-2012, 07:48 PM
 
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I'd love to get rid of Harry. Sadly, based upon the distribution of the population in my state we'd have to give Las Vegas and Reno to California to get it done.

Despite my beliefs with regard to the issue and my fervent wish that neither Vegas nor Reno be allowed to pervert the votes of those of us that inhabit the vast majority of Nevada's geographic land mass it's unlikely to happen.

Out of curiosity, do the votes in your state always reflect your beliefs and desires?

As an aside, why hide so much of your personal info that no one can determine where you call home?
Acually, given his name, I assume he is from Michigan.
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Old 05-07-2012, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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How about a smaller fed.gov, and instead of preferring larger state.govs, just let the states do whatever the hell they want? If you don't like how your state does X or Y, you're free to move to a state that does X or Y the way you like.
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I'd love to get rid of Harry. Sadly, based upon the distribution of the population in my state we'd have to give Las Vegas and Reno to California to get it done.

Despite my beliefs with regard to the issue and my fervent wish that neither Vegas nor Reno be allowed to pervert the votes of those of us that inhabit the vast majority of Nevada's geographic land mass it's unlikely to happen.

Out of curiosity, do the votes in your state always reflect your beliefs and desires?

As an aside, why hide so much of your personal info that no one can determine where you call home?
Just think how we conservatives feel here in Cali. The central valley, inland empire and most anyone living east of the 5 or 1 have absolutely no voting power in this state. Pelossi, Waters and Boxer are lunatics voted in by the insane.
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Old 05-08-2012, 06:49 AM
 
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I for one am a liberal that would prefer a smaller central govt. and larger state govts.

The advantage is that it is too easy for national and multi national companies to bribe a majority of federal representatives. It is much more difficult for them to bribe a majority of reps in every single state. The big banks like Federal Regulations, what they don't like is State Regulations. They like the fed regulations because they can lobby for it to help them and it prevents the States from enacting their own regulations in the same area.
This Liberal Leaning Inde would prefer a smaller Federal Government but do not want to replace it with a larger State Government, that is a Ron Paul idea and would be only replacing one overbearing government with another. Sorry but regulating the banking system State by State would not only be foolish it would be a nightmare and ruin our economy as a whole. The same goes for other industries, the idea does ot solve much and would creat more of a mess than we already have, reform is the answer, you fix the system, you don't dump it and try to start over. Anyway, not gonna happen, so this is nothing more than a fantasy and not related to reality, IMHO.
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Old 05-08-2012, 06:51 AM
 
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Well for starters...

What do you say we get rid of Harry Reid?
That is up to the voters of his district to decside, just so ya know.
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Old 05-08-2012, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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I think there would be more investment in the state of government affairs, concern for community, etc. if the U.S. was a smaller country. Say, if a country was the size of Pennsylvania and New York, then there would be more citizen engagement at the national level and all the way down to local towns. It's too late for that, though, and we have a sprawling federal government to represent people from Hawaii to Alaska to Florida, Maine, Wyoming, etc. so it's easier to get disinterested in the process.

Maybe the U.S. should have developed into half a dozen countries instead of one gigantic one like it is. I'm not suggesting it should be split up now. It may have worked well, it may have been like Europe with frequent warring, who knows.
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