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Old 04-23-2012, 01:30 AM
 
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In this country you're innocent until proven guilty. Especially when protecting one self from some street thug
There is no "especially" about it. Everybody charged with a crime is presumed innocent until proven guilty. I disagree with you regarding your statement about a "street thug."
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Old 04-23-2012, 01:36 AM
 
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There is no "especially" about it. Everybody charged with a crime is presumed innocent until proven guilty. I disagree with you regarding your statement about a "street thug."
What do you call someone that just attacks you and starts banging your head against the ground. If someone was following me and I feared for my safety Id hit them and run. Not hang around and try and stomp them out street thugs do that hence the statement
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Old 04-23-2012, 01:41 AM
 
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In this country you're innocent until proven guilty. Especially when protecting one self from some street thug
What evidence do you have to make such a ludicrous, ridiculous statement?

Rational people realize Zimmerman IS GUILTY AS HELL.

He instigated the trouble, scared hell out of the kid...then barbaric style, shot him dead.

Sir, I'm not allowed on this forum...to address you as I want to.

Buy, it's amazing to hear anyone say what you have!!
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Old 04-23-2012, 01:44 AM
 
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I did not hear about this until today and have been going over the tapes. My hearing(musician) is superior to perfect pitch. Able to discern a note distinction not only by note definition, but if out of tune by up to .5 semi tone. I can still get it. My opinion is that #1 , I'm on to both voices. I believe with good certainty it was zimmerman screeming, zimmereman may have been on top....did he have the white shirt? whats up with that? Pretty sure zimmerman was at one time grabbed by the short ones...thus the screams. Also....theres another recording and I don't know at what stage it fits in....the Black guy says in a challenging way...you can call, then zimm,er speaks....then the black kid speaks....the kid has the voice of what would be thought an older guy, but its the kid...not sure how all this fits in and just learning about this tonight.
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Old 04-23-2012, 01:51 AM
 
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I did not hear about this until today and have been going over the tapes. My hearing(musician) is superior to perfect pitch. Able to discern a note distinction not only by note definition, but if out of tune by up to .5 semi tone. I can still get it. My opinion is that #1 , I'm on to both voices. I believe with good certainty it was zimmerman screeming, zimmereman may have been on top....did he have the white shirt? whats up with that? Pretty sure zimmerman was at one time grabbed by the short ones...thus the screams. Also....theres another recording and I don't know at what stage it fits in....the Black guy says in a challenging way...you can call, then zimm,er speaks....then the black kid speaks....the kid has the voice of what would be thought an older guy, but its the kid...not sure how all this fits in and just learning about this tonight.

Anything else, expert? LOL
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Old 04-23-2012, 01:55 AM
 
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Anything else, expert? LOL
sort the tapes out, produce and ask a question
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Old 04-23-2012, 02:00 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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What evidence do you have to make such a ludicrous, ridiculous statement?

Rational people realize Zimmerman IS GUILTY AS HELL.

He instigated the trouble, scared hell out of the kid...then barbaric style, shot him dead.

Sir, I'm not allowed on this forum...to address you as I want to.

Buy, it's amazing to hear anyone say what you have!!
You dont know that. Even the lawyer said they dont know who started the fight. Zimmerman said he was walking back to his car and was attacked. Its up to the court to decide if the evidence backs his claim not some mob that doesnt have all the facts.
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Old 04-23-2012, 02:03 AM
 
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You dont know that. Even the lawyer said they dont know who started the fight. Zimmerman said he was walking back to his car and was attacked. Its up to the court to decide if the evidence backs his claim not some mob that doesnt have all the facts.
am I missing something? has it been established the kid says....you can call....in a challeging way?
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Old 04-23-2012, 02:08 AM
 
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You dont know that. Even the lawyer said they dont know who started the fight. Zimmerman said he was walking back to his car and was attacked. Its up to the court to decide if the evidence backs his claim not some mob that doesnt have all the facts.
You...you... you have the nerve to tell me the ABOVE...after posting this judgemental comment about a kid who lost his life at the hands of GUILTY Zimmerman. >>


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Especially when protecting one self from some street thug
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Old 04-23-2012, 02:14 AM
 
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You...you... you have the nerve to tell me the ABOVE...after posting this judgemental comment about a kid who lost his life at the hands of GUILTY Zimmerman. >>


well?
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