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It's funny, you have so much faith in the same guy who passed a health care law damn near identical in "SocialistzOMG/CommunistzOMG/MarxistzOMG!!! Massachusetts" to the one that you're talking pure bull**** about to create more jobs than Obama.
You gotta love the hypocrisy of some people.
Not hypocrisy at all. Romney's situation was a state matter. And Romney promises to repeal Obamacare. A promise that he will be held to.
Obama can't and hasn't created any jobs.
If the Almighty knew what he was doing, InsaneTraveler would be working by now.
What's really funny is that you have faith in a guy who has ruined America. And that you love Obama's "so called results" so much, that you want another 4 years.
Apparently doom n' gloomers can't see the bigger picture.
Notice how steep the graph gets in the late 60's / early 70's? That was the first wave of baby boomers entering the job market. The drop since the early 2000's are the boomers beginning to exit the job market into retirement. This will continue for another 10 years until the last wave retires. Doom and gloomers are confusing shifting demographics with nefarious conspiracy theories.
Thats a stretch... I'm sure the 50% of recent college graduates who are unemployed would love to take the available positions that have been vacated by the baby boomers. Unfortunately, those jobs don't exist!
What is ironic is that if Baby Boomers were leaving the positions, don't you think there be a HUGE demand for employees (college student's aren't getting employed and neither are those who lost their jobs not due to retirement)... so your conclusion is factually wrong... there have been large decrease in employment tied with a huge decrease for demand for employees... which means it is really, really bad...
People also seem to forget, when discussing the retirement of baby boomers from the job market, that they themselves had a generation of boomers of their own (kids born in the late 80s/early 90s, also known as Echo Boomers). Thus, it's fairly likely that any gains from the boomers (Gen Y's parents) retiring will be wiped out quickly by the echo boomer's (Gen Y) as they fill the positions their parents leave.
And consider too, given the Echo Boomer will have to contend with the largest structural debt crisis IN HISTORY, which will all likely burst under them, that's going to wreak havoc on any future economic growth itself, becase they won't be able to spend and stimulate demand in the economy like their parents (Baby Boomers) and grandparents (Depression Kids) were able to.
EDIT: The second paragraph is assuming none of the New World Order conspiracies come to fruition (though, given the evidence, I have some reason to believe they will)
So you want taxpayers to pay for your healthcare ... instead of finding a job that provides it?
Jobs will come when Romney is President.
Ya know, this is what we've all been talking about on City Data. I was young once. You are part of the problem.
You're young and don't understand that things take time. Obamacare is going to be declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court in June. So that's out of your dream of free stuff.
What really bothers me is that you think that you should get it. Instead of really working hard and finding a way of getting insurance on your own.
The younger generation attitude = fail.
Hah. Yeah. Sure the jobs will come with Romney as president.
"What really bothers me is that you think that you should get it. Instead of really working hard and finding a way of getting insurance on your own."
Healthcare should be a right. Never a privilege. The job crisis that the country has been going through for over four years now has only made Americans more aware of that. How the hell can you work for something (like health insurance) when you can't find a job? How can you work for anything when you can't find a job?
I don't know how old you are, but you are clearly not a member of my generation and therefor have no clue of the struggles we are going through because of an economy that your generation destroyed!
Apparently doom n' gloomers can't see the bigger picture.
Notice how steep the graph gets in the late 60's / early 70's? That was the first wave of baby boomers entering the job market. The drop since the early 2000's are the boomers beginning to exit the job market into retirement. This will continue for another 10 years until the last wave retires. Doom and gloomers are confusing shifting demographics with nefarious conspiracy theories.
Its not really shifting demographics. The labor force does not include people who are over the age of 65 (since that is retirement age in America).
The reason why the graph gets steep in the late 60s and early 70s is because the boomers were entering the labor force, yes. But that steep is because the boomer generation had much larger female participation in the workforce. Generation X and Y should have just as much, if not more, females participating in the workforce, so the labor force participation rate shouldn't be declining at all.
It is possible that a large number of boomers are retiring early though. I don't know how to decipher the data to see if that is the case.
People also seem to forget, when discussing the retirement of baby boomers from the job market, that they themselves had a generation of boomers of their own (kids born in the late 80s/early 90s, also known as Echo Boomers). Thus, it's fairly likely that any gains from the boomers (Gen Y's parents) retiring will be wiped out quickly by the echo boomer's (Gen Y) as they fill the positions their parents leave.
You realize you are not making any sense... if X leaves job and employed Y takes job... who is filling in the previous Y's job? Nobody... the situation is unchanged... meaning there is still high loss of jobs with very low demand for replacements = really, really bad situation... it doesn't matter who is sitting in their seats when there aren't that many seats and seats are being taken away...
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And consider too, given the Echo Boomer will have to contend with the largest structural debt crisis IN HISTORY, which will all likely burst under them, that's going to wreak havoc on any future economic growth itself, becase they won't be able to spend and stimulate demand in the economy like their parents (Baby Boomers) and grandparents (Depression Kids) were able to.
EDIT: The second paragraph is assuming none of the New World Order conspiracies come to fruition (though, given the evidence, I have some reason to believe they will)
What is a "structural" debt crisis? The only way to stimulate this economy is obvious... a direction and stability... right now, nobody knows what's going to happen and how things are going to change... there is only one person at fault with that and that is Obama... he has been fighting against compromise with the GOP, you might say why don't the GOP compromise instead... the reason is obvious, they are not in the position to need to compromise but Obama is and because he isn't means he is the one creating the instability and is the number one person to blame for the bad economy... its that simple... the liberals can whine and lie all they want, but Obama IS the person responsible for the poor economy...
People also seem to forget, when discussing the retirement of baby boomers from the job market, that they themselves had a generation of boomers of their own (kids born in the late 80s/early 90s, also known as Echo Boomers). Thus, it's fairly likely that any gains from the boomers (Gen Y's parents) retiring will be wiped out quickly by the echo boomer's (Gen Y) as they fill the positions their parents leave.
And consider too, given the Echo Boomer will have to contend with the largest structural debt crisis IN HISTORY, which will all likely burst under them, that's going to wreak havoc on any future economic growth itself, becase they won't be able to spend and stimulate demand in the economy like their parents (Baby Boomers) and grandparents (Depression Kids) were able to.
EDIT: The second paragraph is assuming none of the New World Order conspiracies come to fruition (though, given the evidence, I have some reason to believe they will)
What you need to understand is that money and jobs are not finite. When Romney wins the election this fall, he'll cut out many of the impediments to businesses.
Start ups and existing businesses will be able to grow.
You act as if there are only so many jobs, and that that's as many jobs that will always be available. That's not true.
It is not a finite pie.
Once it's possible to create jobs, the free market will expand.
So you realize that there is a team of doctors working on you plus nurses plus aides plus supplies plus OR time... and you think they should all work for free because it needs to be affordable... if you think the government should pay for it... have you seen how government pays back for most medical services? It would shut down hospitals if they were the only payer.. and still the government can't afford to pay it... so the solution is to make government the only payer and pay less... you have to realize that when the government promises something, it seems very nice AT THE BEGINNING and what it turns into at the end, is a tragedy... they are not going to be honest with you and tell you the problems because you wouldn't support them making those changes... there are some real dumb Americans out there... you just have to look at the social services we already provide and what changes are going to happen... and then ask yourself, are people MORE dependent on these services and knowing that they are going to eventually fail... what does that do for Americans in the future?
"you have to realize that when the government promises something, it seems very nice AT THE BEGINNING and what it turns into at the end, is a tragedy"
Really? Well, considering the current way we handle healthcare in this country is already a tragedy, I will take my chances will an alternative.
" what does that do for Americans in the future"
Hopefully it will result in healthcare expenses not being the number one cause of bankruptcy in this country, as Republicans would prefer it.
The only thing Romney can do is provide direction and stability and that would mean he would need to compromise with the Democratic Senate to succeed, if he doesn't then he would fail just like Obama has failed and continues to fail...
You realize you are not making any sense... if X leaves job and employed Y takes job... who is filling in the previous Y's job? Nobody... the situation is unchanged... meaning there is still high loss of jobs with very low demand for replacements = really, really bad situation... it doesn't matter who is sitting in their seats when there aren't that many seats and seats are being taken away...
What is a "structural" debt crisis? The only way to stimulate this economy is obvious... a direction and stability... right now, nobody knows what's going to happen and how things are going to change... there is only one person at fault with that and that is Obama... he has been fighting against compromise with the GOP, you might say why don't the GOP compromise instead... the reason is obvious, they are not in the position to need to compromise but Obama is and because he isn't means he is the one creating the instability and is the number one person to blame for the bad economy... its that simple... the liberals can whine and lie all they want, but Obama IS the person responsible for the poor economy...
"who is filling in the previous Y's job"
Y was most likely 16 years old and not in the labor force yet, therefore they didn't have a job that could be taken.
A large chunk of generation Y is not even old enough to work yet, so yes, the echo boom can still continue to fill in the gaps left by the boomers in the total number of people in the labor force.
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