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View Poll Results: Should gay activists be able to re-define marriage?
Yes, as long as it excludes no relationship 10 18.18%
Yes, as long as it is between no more than two consenting adults 2 3.64%
Yes, as long as it is between no more than two non-related consenting adults 4 7.27%
No, the people should decide 13 23.64%
No, in fact we should have a constitutional amendment prohibiting them from doing so 25 45.45%
Undecided 1 1.82%
Voters: 55. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-25-2012, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Duluth, Minnesota, USA
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Just read that in a banner sponsored by Minnesotans for Marriage.

It's certainly an interesting way of thinking of it.

In the U.S., marriage has always been between one man and one woman.

Should activists, and not the people, be able to re-define it any way they want?
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Old 04-25-2012, 06:52 PM
 
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Yes. Civil marriage law should be redefined so as to stop discriminating against gay people.
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Old 04-25-2012, 07:13 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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It wasn't "defined" until churches and cities started marrying gay people and conservatives got all pissed off and lobbied legislatures to change the laws and constitutions to define marriage as between one man and one woman.
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Old 04-25-2012, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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There is no choice for allowing marriage for any consenting adults.

The first option is the closest, but not specific enough, so I didn't vote.
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Old 04-25-2012, 07:27 PM
 
Location: West Egg
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Just read that in a banner sponsored by Minnesotans for Marriage.

It's certainly an interesting way of thinking of it.

In the U.S., marriage has always been between one man and one woman.

Should activists, and not the people, be able to re-define it any way they want?
Ah, yes -- the upcoming vote in Minnesota to place a ban on same-sex marriage in the state constitution -- brought to you in part by the efforts of Senate Majority Leader Amy Koch.

And as everyone now knows, when Mrs. Koch wasn't busy trying her best to 'defend the sanctity of marriage' ... ... she was having an affair with a staffer ...

I for one am eagerly awaiting my ballot so I can cast a vote against such a repugnant amendment!
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Old 04-25-2012, 07:33 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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I do not see it as "redefining marriage."

Marriage has different definitions to different people because of their culture, heritage, ethnicity, religion or lack of a religion, etc.

I see people who are intolerant of other people's marriages wanting to define it according to THEIR definition of marriage.

In any case, I am in favor of legal same-sex marriage.

... and guess what?!?! I predict it will become recognized in more states. We are seeing more and more states legalizing same-sex marriages ... last year New York, this year Maryland and Washington, later this year perhaps Maine, next year perhaps New Jersey.

The only way to enshrine the narrow exclusionary definition of marriage for only heterosexual opposite-gender couples will be a constitutional amendment. That will never happen.
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Old 04-25-2012, 07:33 PM
 
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Marriage should be completely out of government in the first place, period.
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Old 04-25-2012, 07:47 PM
 
Location: West Egg
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If marriage hadn't been 'redefined', spousal rape would still be legal -- because marriage used to be an institution where a man had conjugal rights, and raping his wife wasn't a crime, it was merely exercising his legal-recognized rights.

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For the husband cannot be guilty of a rape committed by himself upon his lawful wife for by their mutual matrimonial consent and contract the wife hath given up herself in this kind unto her husband which she cannot retract.
--Matthew Hale, English jurist and author of Analysis of the Common Law, the first history of English law.
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Old 04-25-2012, 07:53 PM
 
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Just read that in a banner sponsored by Minnesotans for Marriage.

It's certainly an interesting way of thinking of it.

In the U.S., marriage has always been between one man and one woman.

Should activists, and not the people, be able to re-define it any way they want?
It is not a question of defining it. The question should be "Should the GOVERMENT be able to tell ADULTS what kind of domestic relationships that they may enjoy? " The answer is NO.
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Old 04-25-2012, 07:54 PM
 
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Marriage should be completely out of government in the first place, period.
Agreed! It is a CHURCH function.
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