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Old 04-27-2012, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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I don't know which ones he wanted to raise but I am sure that the Constitution says that that kind of thing has to be done by the Congress in conjunction with the President. Obama hasn't changed that rule with an Executive Order that I didn't know about, has he?

So the answer is none. Obama raised taxes on no one!
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Old 04-27-2012, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Moderate conservative for Obama.
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So the answer is none. Obama raised taxes on no one!

He actually did the opposite and put a little more in our kitty, we didnt just take his word for it, we checked it from previous pay checks when he actually annouced what HIS administration did.
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Old 04-27-2012, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Being you know so much about each of these bills, provide for us exactly what the bill says and EXACTLY how it's passage will positively and negatively affect each of the things you claim.

If you CANNOT provide the asked for info, you are just a typical accuser with no data to back up your claims.

FYI, allowing companies to pollute does not create jobs, only more profit for the company and a destruction of natural resources which belong to everyone.

These jobs don't create jobs, they destroy our environment.
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-The bill would amend the Federal Insecticide, Fungicide, and Rodenticide Act (FIFRA)

-The bill would strip the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) of its ability to use the Clean Air Act

-H.J. Res 37 would prohibit the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) from imposing net neutrality regulations on Internet providers

-The bill would amend the Federal Water Pollution Control Act

- amend the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act

-The bill would prohibit the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) from ordering any employer to close, relocate or transfer employment under any circumstance.

-The TRAIN Act would establish an 11-member committee, chaired by the Department of Commerce, to analyze the impacts of a number of major Environment Protection Agency (EPA) regulations.

-The bill would prohibit the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) regulations

-The bill would help to curtail the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) Boiler MACT regulations on boilers and industrial incinerators.

-The bill would prohibit the EPA from regulating coal ash as a toxic waste in any state
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Old 04-27-2012, 06:33 PM
 
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I will develop strategies for creating 250,000 new jobs and 10,000 new businesses by 2015.
I did not know it was 2015?
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Old 04-27-2012, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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In 400+ Days The House GOP Has Voted To Kill 1.9 Million Jobs And Created 0

The GOP has passed legislation since they have taken control of the House, just none that has anything to do with job creation.

-Voted to repeal health care reform

-passed a bill to undermine our ability to provide a healthier environment for our children,

-Voted to protect taxpayer subsidies for Big Oil and speculators

-Voted to provide more tax cuts for millionaires, and protect tax breaks for corporations shipping jobs overseas

-Voted to cripple public radio stations

-Voted to cut off key federal funding for Planned Parenthood

-restricted how women with private insurance can spend private dollars in purchasing health insurance


In 200+ Days The House GOP Has Voted To Kill 1.9 Million Jobs And Created 0 (http://www.politicususa.com/in-200-days-the-house-gop-has-voted-to-kill-1-9-million-jobs-and-created-0/ - broken link)


Where are the jobs???
The jobs are waiting for Harry Reid to do his job in the senate, and pass the job creation bills the house has sent over.

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“We have passed 30 bills in the House that would help get our economy moving again. Twenty-seven of them are sitting over in the United States Senate,” Boehner said. “What the president could do … would be to work with us to lean on the Senate to take up these bills.”
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...-done-its-job/
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Old 04-27-2012, 07:07 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I am getting different opinions from the conservatives on this thread. So some of you are not real conservatives.. You can only have one of the following views and not both - Conservatives are trying to legislate job growth (stymied by Democrats) or it is not the govt.'s job to create jobs. Which is it. It can't be both. You are talking out of both sides of your mouth if you say that it is not our job and with the next sentence say that we are trying?


No one is having it both ways.

Bills sent to reduce the size of government to get us out of this mess, have been tabled by Harry Reid.
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Old 04-27-2012, 10:32 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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I did not know it was 2015?
The point I am trying to make is that Republicans campaign on "creating new jobs" just as Scott Walker (gov. of WI) did. After elected, suddenly we hear that "government does not create jobs."
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Old 04-27-2012, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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The jobs are waiting for Harry Reid to do his job in the senate, and pass the job creation bills the house has sent over.



As Gridlock Consumes Congress, Boehner Says House ‘Has Done its Job’ - ABC News
And I covered what those bills are in post #8. None of those bills had anything to do with jobs.
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Old 04-28-2012, 08:25 AM
 
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No politicians create jobs -- no matter how many times Obama and Pelosi lie - they are not capable of creating 5 million jobs.

Politicians have to make sure government doesn't interfere with businesses trying to create jobs.
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Old 04-28-2012, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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No politicians create jobs -- no matter how many times Obama and Pelosi lie - they are not capable of creating 5 million jobs.

Politicians have to make sure government doesn't interfere with businesses trying to create jobs.
Yes, we know very well what the conservative mantra is. The question is, what's the evidence to support that view?

The previous Presidential Administration was supposedly to be the most pro-business one in 90 years. They cut taxes, to the point were many large corporations pay no taxes. They also deregulated wherever possible; they relaxed labor standards and environmental standards, etc.

How did that translate into job growth? The Bush Administration had the weakest jobs record in generations. Bush's job growth was far worse than Bill Clinton, who raised taxes and increased regulations. The job growth under Clinton was 22 million against Bush's 5 million.

But you are also wrong when you say government cannot create jobs. The government has two powerful tools, fiscal policy and monetary policy. With monetary policy, government can help make funds available for business to invest or pull the reigns when inflation looms. With fiscal policy, government can help mitigate lost private demand-- essentially buying goods and services.

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