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Old 04-28-2012, 11:19 PM
 
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Ok, nice insults. Can you back them up with substance? I mean, how is Obama a sham, and Bush was not? How is Bush more competent? I know you don't like Mr. O, but can you really make a case of why he is so much more incompetent than, say Bush 1, Bush 2, Richard Nixon, or Ronald Reagan?
Obama has vastly increase the scope, size, power and cost of the Federal Gov't.

He is dramatically reducing the one part of the federal government we need fully intact, i.e. the military.

He is giving $1.5B to the Muslim Bro-hood.

He ran up more debt in 3 years than Bush did in 8.


the fool doesn't even know there are 50, not 57 states in the Union!!!!! Or how to pronounce Navy Corpsman.

On and on - on and on!!!!!
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Old 04-28-2012, 11:19 PM
 
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Ok, nice insults. Can you back them up with substance? I mean, how is Obama a sham, and Bush was not? How is Bush more competent? I know you don't like Mr. O, but can you really make a case of why he is so much more incompetent than, say Bush 1, Bush 2, Richard Nixon, or Ronald Reagan?
so is this thread about Bush vs obama or is it about What is so wrong with obama?
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Old 04-28-2012, 11:19 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Yeah I don't get the outright hatred for the man. I can understand people who say "I'm not a fan of his economic policies" or "I think there's a better way to get healthcare for all than through a national mandate." I can't understand folks who think he's the spawn of Satan. He seems like a nice guy and I'd get a beer with him even if I don't see eye-to-eye on everything.

The people who think he's the spawn of Satan are a tiny minority. Sure they exist, but only a tiny percentage as compared with W Bush. Check the approval numbers.
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Old 04-28-2012, 11:21 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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cash for clunkers--the idea that we could somehow move the economy forward by crushing runing cars, destroying useful assets.

fast and furious--the idea that we could some how reduce crime by putting guns into the hands of drug gangs.
Thanks for posting real reasons!

That said, they seem pretty minor. Even if some of his ideas are complete flops, do they mean he is evil incarnate?

Neither of these match up to starting an unjustified war paid for with tax cuts and borrowed money. Now that tends to **** people off.
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Old 04-28-2012, 11:23 PM
 
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Personally I think he gets the big picture, he just has problems finding adequate solutions to them.

I'm satisfied with the job he's done on foreign policy--however he sucks on Domestic issues IMO. Just about every problem on the forefront that he's attempted to tackle in this country, has dribbled down his chin.
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Old 04-28-2012, 11:26 PM
 
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so is this thread about Bush vs obama or is it about What is so wrong with obama?
You decide.

However, the contrast seems fair. The GOP lost in 2008 because W was a complete disaster. Now, the unfettered outrage is leveled against a person who seems quite moderate and competent in comparison. I don't get the outrage from the right. They lost because they put a buffoon in office. The new person inherits two wars, unsustainable tax cuts, and the worst financial meltdown in nearly a century, which they don't seem even remotely interested in helping to solve, and they act like that person is a drunkenly irresponsible socialist dictator. It seems like the reasoning of a three year old. Seriously. The outrage strikes me as laughable, because the President is a mere mortal, bound to circumstance. And our current circumstance, independent of the President, suck. And that is our fault, not the new guys. A President cannot make upside down mortgages inflate, corporations hire, and tapped out citizens consume. He can deficit spend and put some people to work, but the GOP killed that, so we are were we are.

Who, of any of the GOP presidents of the last century could have done better?
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Old 04-28-2012, 11:26 PM
 
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I'm satisfied with the job he's done on foreign policy
You have got to be kidding. He is an international laughing stock, bowing incessantly to world leaders, pulled the rug out from under our ally Israel...
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Old 04-28-2012, 11:30 PM
 
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You have got to be kidding. He is an international laughing stock, bowing incessantly to world leaders, pulled the rug out from under our ally Israel...
He fumbled the ball on Israel, I agree with that. However I am satisfied on how he has delivered on his promises to the Iraq debacle and I applaud him on how he's dealt with Iran as opposed to how some of the far right political pundits would have preferred (i.e. Hannity and Mark Levin)
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Old 04-28-2012, 11:31 PM
 
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You decide.

The GOP lost in 2008 because W was a complete disaster. Now, the unfettered outrage is leveled against a person who seems quite moderate and competent in comparison. I don't get the outrage from the right. They lost because they put a buffoon in office. The new person inherits two wars, unsustainable tax cuts, and the worst financial meltdown in nearly a century, which they don't seem even remotely interested in helping to solve, and they act like that person is a drunkenly irresponsible socialist dictator. It seems like the reasoning of a three year old. Seriously. The outrage strikes me a laughable, because the President is a mere mortal, bound to circumstance.

Who, of any of the GOP presidents of the last century could have done better?
Your partisanship for the Democrats is showing.

My question to you is, what has Obama done to fix any of the above?

If anything, he started MORE unsustainable wars and CUT taxes to even more unsustainable levels. Meanwhile, any recovery courtesy of his policies has been negligible at best, and we may be teetering on another financial meltdown at that.
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Old 04-28-2012, 11:35 PM
 
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Ask the same question in a couple years (if he wins re-election) when your in a FEMA camp
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