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Differences between getting/renewing old and new ID/driver license.
Old- just say who you are and where you live.
New- Prove who you are and where you live. Show a birth certificate or passport, your social security card and a current utility bill.
What's the big deal in 7 states that refuse to have people prove their identity?
So what happens to those people that DON'T have those things?
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Originally Posted by Little-Acorn
DHS to States: The REAL ID Deadline Is Next January, Period.
States to Federal DHS: See you in court. Bring your copy of the Constitution showing your authority to tell us how to make our drivers' licenses.
This last group includes, at a minimum, Montana, Washington State, Minnesota, Oklahoma, Arizona, Louisiana, and Alaska. New Mexico has no prohibitions against compliance, but has been unable to revise state laws to meet the lawful presence requirements set by the federal driver’s license rules. Oregon’s legislature considered law changes needed for federal compliance in 2011, as did Illinois, but the legislation failed in both states
We all had to show our Driver Licenses to vote in our primaries this spring. I doubt our state government will get pushed around on this one.
I didn't read which law it was that put this excess of power in the hands of Janet Napolitano.
I was the Real ID Act of 2005, passed by the Republican dominated Congress and signed into law by George Bush.
At the time, Napolitano was the Governor of Arizona and she opted her state out of it, calling it pointless, expensive and nothing more than "feel good" legislation.
As Secretary, she offered an alternative called the Pass ID Act which addressed most of the concerns about Real ID, but Congress wouldn't pass it. Guess which party shot it down?
So what happens to those people that DON'T have those things?
There is ways to obtain those documents, in my state a birth certificate can be obtained by a close relative; wife/husband , Father, Mother, children....
No more extensions. And your old driver license will be no good in the eyes of DHS. At the wave of a hand..poof..your driver license is not acceptable.
DHS to States: The REAL ID Deadline Is Next January, Period. - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/dhs-states-real-id-deadline-next-january-period-215805119.html - broken link)
It would be a good idea for those governors to alert their residents that the driver's licenses in their pockets won't be acceptable IDs beginning next year.
it wont be acceptable in federal areas, but state areas it is fine. also I see a bunch of states telling the feds to go suck an egg.
I was the Real ID Act of 2005, passed by the Republican dominated Congress and signed into law by George Bush.
At the time, Napolitano was the Governor of Arizona and she opted her state out of it, calling it pointless, expensive and nothing more than "feel good" legislation.
As Secretary, she offered an alternative called the Pass ID Act which addressed most of the concerns about Real ID, but Congress wouldn't pass it. Guess which party shot it down?
it doesnt matter which party struck it down, both parties are one and the same. when will the people learn that?
Technically they don't have to comply but that will leave their citizens without a state issued ID the federal government will not accept for federal services. It's common tactic, probably best example was when they instituted the national drinking age. The feds threatened to hold up federal highway funding.
the worth of what the FRN is these days, there might be a few states that might tell the fed to suck an egg.
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