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Old 05-08-2012, 11:43 AM
 
Location: "Chicago"
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I can confidently say that's libelous and untrue.
I agree its untrue but for some odd reason when I questioned the premise I got a nasty-gram sent to me via a reputation comment. Hmmm, very strange!
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Old 05-08-2012, 01:01 PM
 
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being gay is not a choice so if that's the point of this blog.

hiv is NOT a gay disease and that it was STARTED by HETEROSEXUAL people and in much of the world the biggest carriers of the disease are HETEROSEXUAL PEOPLE
Your right.
Aids/HIV generally speaking, are diseases of promiscuity.
Bottom line....if you screw around, chances are, you might
get ****ed Doesn't matter your sexual orientation.

Today, mostly everyone knows how you get Aids/HIV
Now, let's just treat it as it is; a disease.

For those who fall into one of the risk groups, take some
personal responsibility - the education has been out there
for YEARS.
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Old 05-09-2012, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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Your right.
Aids/HIV generally speaking, are diseases of promiscuity.
Bottom line....if you screw around, chances are, you might
get ****ed Doesn't matter your sexual orientation.

Today, mostly everyone knows how you get Aids/HIV
Now, let's just treat it as it is; a disease.

For those who fall into one of the risk groups, take some
personal responsibility - the education has been out there
for YEARS.
Hence my concern with how promiscuous gay men are and the fact that 1 in 5 in 21 of our largest cities are believe to be HIV positive, with nearly half not knowing it.
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Old 05-09-2012, 03:13 PM
 
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But the #1 thing I think about when it comes to so many folks living with HIV is WHO is footing the bill? Obviously others are paying higher insurance premiums and taxpayers are subsidizing those living with HIV. HIV treatment doesn't come cheap. This is a rotten way of thinking about it, but it's also realistic - we're basically paying to keep folks alive so they can continue to spread the plague that is HIV! But what other option is there, let people die? If that happened and people were truly accountable for themselves, I bet folks would start taking HIV much more seriously!
If your argument is based on shared healthcare costs, I think you'd be better served focusing your concern on obesity. Obesity is a MUCH larger problem in this country.
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Old 05-09-2012, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Hence my concern with how promiscuous gay men are and the fact that 1 in 5 in 21 of our largest cities are believe to be HIV positive, with nearly half not knowing it.
Thanks for your "concern", you can just avoid them then and not talk to them.... I doubt they'll care.

And your concern is ironic, as you went as far as downplaying the necessity of using condoms in straight sex and the risks of HIV in it.

You don't know anything about HIV or gays. Period. Moving on.
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Old 05-09-2012, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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If your argument is based on shared healthcare costs, I think you'd be better served focusing your concern on obesity. Obesity is a MUCH larger problem in this country.
Obesity is troubling too, but HIV is scarier. And it's not just healthcare costs. HIV is just a scary thing and a real threat to our society. Obesity also isn't a virus.
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Old 05-09-2012, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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Thanks for your "concern", you can just avoid them then and not talk to them.... I doubt they'll care.

And your concern is ironic, as you went as far as downplaying the necessity of using condoms in straight sex and the risks of HIV in it.

You don't know anything about HIV or gays. Period. Moving on.
That makes no sense. Why would I treat gays any differently or avoid them because of HIV?

I didn't downplay the importance of being safe and smart. I don't know what you're talking about.

You're confused.
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Old 05-09-2012, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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That makes no sense. Why would I treat gays any differently or avoid them because of HIV?

I didn't downplay the importance of being safe and smart. I don't know what you're talking about.

You're confused.
You lose. Posted by you previously:

"Are you saying that you don't think heterosexuals are less likely to be affected by HIV? That's just dumb, dude. Anal sex and HIV go hand in hand. If you believe that, then why don't 20% of heterosexuals have HIV? Maybe because gays as a group are more promiscuous and deviant? If you're not getting plugged in the butt or using IV drugs, you're not at much risk of getting HIV, even if you don't use a condom! Other STD's? That's a different story."


That's called downplaying. Guys sleeping around with random women is also playing with fire. As I said, get tested. Something makes me wonder about your own sexual habits.
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Old 05-09-2012, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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You lose. Posted by you previously:

"Are you saying that you don't think heterosexuals are less likely to be affected by HIV? That's just dumb, dude. Anal sex and HIV go hand in hand. If you believe that, then why don't 20% of heterosexuals have HIV? Maybe because gays as a group are more promiscuous and deviant? If you're not getting plugged in the butt or using IV drugs, you're not at much risk of getting HIV, even if you don't use a condom! Other STD's? That's a different story."


That's called downplaying. Guys sleeping around with random women is also playing with fire. As I said, get tested. Something makes me wonder about your own sexual habits.
Come on, man, get real. In this country, you know very well that a guy who only has sex with women has a far less likely chance of being exposed to HIV, especially if he's not incredibly promiscuous. Even if he did have sex with a woman with HIV and didn't use a condom, his chances of getting it aren't incredibly likely. That's not to say it can't happen. This is even true with gays. Exclusive tops are less likely to contract the virus.
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