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Old 05-03-2012, 06:26 PM
 
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No, but the FBI and the U.S. Marshals are used in cases that are beyond the reach of local law enforcement.
Education and healthcare are a local issue. I can't care less how they deal with education or healthcare in Massachusetts for example.
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Old 05-03-2012, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Austin
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You made our points perfectly. Thanks much
Oh, so you'd rather they continue letting David Koresh smuggle illegal weapons and molest little children? Yes, I guess I did make your points perfectly because those children were innocent. That fire was lit by the Branch Davidians not the FBI. They were innocent just like the ones at the daycare center juxtaposed to the Federal Building in Oklahoma City that was bombed by a right-wing group. You're quite welcome!
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Old 05-03-2012, 06:26 PM
 
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Ever been to Norway, Sweden, Denmark, or Finland? Those nations were ruled the happiest countries on earth. They were ranked in the top five for the past 3 years because they understand quality of life outweighs standard of living.
Anybody beating a path to get there? Sorry, you lose.
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Old 05-03-2012, 06:27 PM
 
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The problem with these discussions is that no one really defines what socialism is. People point to countries as being good examples of "socialism", like Sweden or Germany, or they point to bad examples like Greece and Spain.

Given the rather divergent outcomes in terms of "socialism" it would seem like there are some aspects of "socialism" that are good and some that are bad.
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Old 05-03-2012, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Education and healthcare are a local issue. I can't care less how they deal with education or healthcare in Massachusetts for example.
Well according to the GOP, they're inconsequential and unimportant.
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Old 05-03-2012, 06:27 PM
 
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Oh, so you'd rather they continue letting David Koresh smuggle illegal weapons and molest little children? Yes, I guess I did make your points perfectly because those children were innocent. That fire was lit by the Branch Davidians not the FBI. They were innocent just like the ones at the daycare center juxtaposed to the Federal Building in Oklahoma City that was bombed by a right-wing group. You're quite welcome!
You and your STRAWMAN (sung to the tune of "Me and my Shadow")
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Old 05-03-2012, 06:27 PM
 
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The federal government should stick to what its allowed to do in accordance with the constitution and let the states and individuals work out the rest.
Yup!!!

And why change a good thing we had???
America was a great *true freedom* country until "socialism" takes over for using taxpayers money for people who are on welfare, even illegal health care & such....

Can you imagine when all taxpayers eventually don't pay & start being on the receiving end, how broke this country will be??? All people "take" and nobody "gives"... anyone with half the brain "know" that is NOT sustainable (when ALL usa people refuses to work... so they are all socially same as the "takers" = yes, what horrors!!!!!!!

Imagine "government control" & real life inflation sets in...
For everyone to receive say $20 per hrs for their volunteer government work... yet government control all commodities (say back to $1000 a loaf of bread)... who can afford to "eat" then???
Hey... *you* voted to give that government that control of *your money*... so when they control their children "eat" & go to college BUT NOT YOURS (yah, government will take care of themselves... every political government is corrupt remember that) since you cannot afford to... and the rest of your social fellows are in that same boat... will you still think that socialism is great???

Public libraries here in the USA are by no means example of socialism... especially if & when it was introduced when capitalistic USA is doing well, capitalism provides that *donor* (successful owner of XX co.) of that library the profits to give via their own charities to contribute to the good of his fellow people *is* what makes it happens (how many libraries are dedicated to who???). If capitalism is so bad.... why does communistic China believes in taking after business models of USA's capitalism to capitalize on US$ having factories make products so their country can gain economically??? Yet, keeping government & their beliefs separate??? Yet communism / socialist attitude of allowing excuses for internal lazy people to thrive (eat as well even when they are not as productive), hence made inferior products that "they don't care" (work more / work little = same money.. so don't be fool to work more).

Do you want to have to "work" in that work more or work less equals same pay society???
Yah!!! That'll be socialism for you!!!

You want to learn how to fish... NOT depend on your government's mood for your food (if they are happy, they give you more... if they aren't they'll threaten to cut you off!!!)!!!

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Old 05-03-2012, 06:28 PM
 
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Well according to the GOP, they're inconsequential and unimportant.
This is a mere STRAWBOY (besides being a lie).
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Old 05-03-2012, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Anybody beating a path to get there? Sorry, you lose.
Actually, those countries are awash of immigrants. In fact, there was a huge outcry from Muslim immigrants in Denmark after the cartoon in the Danish newspaper of Mohammed being a terrorist was published. Remember that guy Anders Breivik in Norway who went on a shooting rampage against immigrants last year because he was xenophobic? There ARE many foreigners in those countries. Sorry! You lose!
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Old 05-03-2012, 06:30 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Your hysterical rants seem to be growing shorter, even if not saner.
Well according to the GOP, they're inconsequential and unimportant.
Your lies about Republicans or conservatives are also growing shorter, even if no more accurate.
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