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Old 05-08-2012, 11:37 AM
 
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This entire "birther" issue is for the simple minded. It is an easily understood issue for their "talking points."
now that is a simple minded response!
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Old 05-08-2012, 01:22 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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I detest Rush but. This post is a bunch of blather that does nothing but deflect and minimize.
If you use a gov program you are a socialist? yes and if you withdraw money from a bank you are a bank robber.
If someone believes it was right to free the slaves they are the same as the grand Dragon of the clan. they are all radicals don't you know.
Growing up in the hood means that you knew some gang bangers? Ok Ill give that one too you. But it doesn't mean that you were friends.
Geneva convention I do believe that covers uniformed soldiers. I doont agree with torture but distorting the genva convention is total bs.
illegal war? Did Congress some how get side stepped in the decision making process? Illegal where? Here or in the international court? You might not want the crap about congress but quite honestly Bush obeyed the laws. How about this. Dont give that Crap that congress was lied to.
Falsifying military records. You of course have proof besides you know he said she said?
Party Hardliners. Regardless of which party they are sucking up to they sound exactly alike and do the exact same things.

Please read carefully what I wrote. The majority of Americans deal with some sort of socialism, but that does not make them a socialist either. Radicalism by definition is anything that defies the norm. Anyone wanting slaves to be free during the height of slavery was considered (at that time) to be a radical, and yes the klan can be considered to be radicals. If you grew up in a bad neighborhood or even a good one some of your childhood friends may grow up to have radical and even terrorist thoughts and ideas. You might not like what they become, but you cannot deny at onetime you were friends or at least knew them personally. Now the Geneva convention was signeed by OUR president who is in charge of OUR military so why would'nt the rules apply to him as well? The war in Iraq was illegal, not by our standards but by international standards. We as Americans believe that whatever that our courts/congress says regarding world events goes regardless if there are international rules that are broken, and since we and the UK have veto powers in the UN it gives us carte blanche to do whatever that we want.
Legality of the Iraq War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


As far as bush's military service is concerned, he never denied what 60 minutes found was wrong just the way that they got it. The records as well as eye witnesses reports that he did not show up for all of his required drills. If a military person had done the investigation correctly, bush would have been exposed as the coward that he was. Ask any AF member how you can be a 1lt for 5 years when a promotion to Captain is pretty much automatic unless disciplinary actions were taken or you did not complete your requirements for promotion i.e not participate for drills.
I realize that this is off subject but, if he had completed his military training he would have handled the Iraq situation much differently and perhaps it would not have been so much FUBAR.
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Old 05-08-2012, 01:25 PM
 
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Once again, a leftist brings up something Rush said, bbut swer they never listen to him.
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Old 05-08-2012, 01:38 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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Where were the falsehoods?

Obama's parents were socialists, he did seek out friends and mentors who were racists, radicals, communists and Marxists, and he did have friends that were domestic terrorists, and he did receive scholarships for his prep school and both Harvard and Columbia. so where exactly are the falsehoods?..... and please take your head out the sand before you answer.

I guess that you can call the bush family associates terrorist as well
How the Bush family made its fortune from the Nazis


I guess his grandfather's connection does not count? Well how about something more recent regarding modern day terrorist?
Osama bin Laden's Bush Family Business Connections

How about a good read?
Bin Laden Ties


Once again you never hear your beloved faux news mention any of this, but yet you bring up garbage that has been proven lies about the current president
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Old 05-08-2012, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Lol! What libs do on slow days, they work up a little phoney anger and bash Rush.
Cute.
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Old 05-08-2012, 01:40 PM
 
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cute.
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Old 05-08-2012, 01:57 PM
 
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False.

His father (whom he never really new) may have been a socialist of some stripe, although that makes it difficult to explain why he was so harshly critical of the socialist government he worked for in Kenya. But his mother spent the bulk of her professional career bringing explicitly Western capitalist values to the third world poor through the development and implementation of micro-credit and micro-finance models.

His step-father (whom he knew only briefly) was an executive in a oil company... a decidedly non-socialist profession.

And his grandparents (who actually raised him) were respectively a salesman and a bank VP... hardly socialist.


I suppose you mean Frank Marshall Davis... a man who was a friend of his grandfather's. I gotta tell you... I know all sorts of stories regarding the friends of my grandfather too. None of them were my friends or mentors.


Gong!!! The relationship between Obama and Bill Ayers has been done to death. It is simply a lie that never dies that they were ever friends.


Gong!!! There is no evidence that Obama received any scholarships at all for his college.


I am often puzzled at the complete fiction that right-wing nut-jobs have assembled around this president. Bill Maher has pointed out that back when lefties were hating on Bush, they were at least hating on the real guy... attacking him for things he actually did and said.

But the Obama of conservative fever dreams is worse than a caricature... he is often a total fabrication. Almost nothing used in the personal attacks against him generally turns out to be true upon examination. He has never made the tiniest effort to take away your guns. He is recognized everywhere outside of the US as a "center right" politician. And his policies have breathed not a hint of the Marxism/communism of which he is constantly accused.

What would possible inspire such foamingly irrational behavior on the part of the Obama haters? why... if Obama were genuinely that bad... is it a straw man you guys attack rather than the real guy?
Who is the real guy? the real Obama? He himself bragged that he was a blank slate upon which people were free to project any image they wanted. Well, they've done that and he has only himself to blame. Transparency is not his strong suit.
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Old 05-08-2012, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Exactly. And that they only need a re-affirmation of their beliefs. They ain't going to think twice, much less investigate.
You have a very shallow and misguided insight into Rush Limbaugh listeners.
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Old 05-08-2012, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Limbaugh is keeping his listeners focused on the birther issue so that they don't notice our growing economy and lowering gas prices.
Gas prices have plummeted!!!

4-2011 $3.929 Now $3.763 a whopping .16 windfall over the last year. Whoopi!!!

Growing economy?

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/chart.png?s=gdp cqoq&d1=20100101&d2=20120508 (broken link)

Our GDP has been anemic for six years. Anything under 3% is dismal. If Limbaugh is keeping people from focusing on the economy and gas prices, he's doing Obama a favor.
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Old 05-08-2012, 02:34 PM
 
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steve!
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