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Old 05-08-2012, 06:49 PM
 
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Umm... why does it bother you.

The parents should be responsible for their children - that is part of the definition of a parent.

Why would you ever think that the government has responsibility for a child?
Very good question. One that people should be thinking about.
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Old 05-08-2012, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Point Hope Alaska
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The bible says: Teach YOUR CHILDREN; 4 times a day

When you wake up - When you sit down - when you walk by the way and before you go to bed

The original purpose of Harvard University is written in stone above the entrance; To teach young men ...the scriptures!!

It is up to parents to teach their children - not some school system shoving homosexuality down their throats!!
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Old 05-08-2012, 07:37 PM
 
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Why is this an all or nothing question? Primarily, parents bear the responsibility for their children. However, society has a vested interest in taking on some responsibility, too.

Nobody is served by having hungry and/or homeless children roaming the streets. Nobody is served by having children who lack basic, general education. Not the child, not the parents, not you, not me, not society.

That's when the government should take the children to foster care and put the parents in prison.
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Old 05-08-2012, 07:39 PM
 
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Why would you ever think that the government has responsibility for a child?
I don't know. You tell me. Guess how many children the government is raising.
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Old 05-08-2012, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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I don't know. You tell me. Guess how many children the government is raising.
Your original question wasn't whether government should step in if parents fail - it was who should be responsible for raising children. The family is the institution tasked with teaching children what they need to know to successfully transition into adolescence and then adulthood. If parents fail to shoulder this responsibility, I agree that someone else needs to do so - but the last thing we want to do is encourage parents to abdicate their responsibility and allow government agencies to raise children. Read The Naked Sun by Isaac Asimov - I don't think we want to end up like Solaria!

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Old 05-08-2012, 08:28 PM
 
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Your original question wasn't whether government should step in if parents fail - it was who should be responsible for raising children. The family is the institution tasked with teaching children what they need to know to successfully transition into adolescence and then adulthood. If parents fail to shoulder this responsibility, I agree that someone else needs to do so - but the last thing we want to do is encourage parents to abdicate their responsibility and allow government agencies to raise children. Read The Naked Sun byIsaac Asimov - I don't think we want to end up like Solaria!

If parents are responsible, then they should be held responsible when they fail.
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Old 05-08-2012, 08:41 PM
 
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Perhaps if parents of children raised adults this wouldn't be a topic for discussion.
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Old 05-08-2012, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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I am staying out of Florida! The police and justice system in that state are totally dangerous!
yes, Florida is crazy in some places.


OP, obviously the parents should take care of the kid. However our society is losing its priorities. Octomom has 13 kids. sadly it seems those who have the most kids dont take care of them.
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Old 05-08-2012, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Point Hope Alaska
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Perhaps if parents of children raised adults this wouldn't be a topic for discussion.
ROFLMAO!!! The very first thing I taught my four sons when they were babies:

There is no such thing: As an "adult"

Its the same bunch of lil kids in much bigger bodies!!

Adults ? show me just one!! LMAO!!!
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Old 05-08-2012, 08:45 PM
 
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Well I see by your post and question; This is just too far over your head to comprehend.

I suggest a quick tour of poorer countries like the Philippines to see how that is handled.

Governments do not give two chits about people - except in this country they make you think otherwise.

It is not the governments job to raise YOUR children - The governments job is to enforce the constitution.
I find it strange that you would want to be part of a government (society) that would let children starve to death. You should move to the Philippines, your values seem to be more inline with a 3rd world philosophy.

Our Govt in this country is for the people by the people. It's really that simple. It's by far the best thing mankind has going on right now.
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