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If marriage were actually about breeding, we wouldn't let females over 45 get married. That only leaves the argument that marriage is truly about genitalia.
Pretty sick and twisted if you ask me. Marriage, to me, is about love.
Checking your posting history, a question arises....Why are you so completely obsessed with what homosexuals do or don't do?....Are you hiding something? You are without a doubt one of the most hateful posters I have ever seen.
this good enough for you (I can give you many more reasons)
1. I'm a jew.
2. I believe Jewish tradition
3. when other Jews say Jews are in favor of this evil I'm obligated to correct that misimpression
4. Jewish tradition twice links the destruction of the world to men "marrying" other men
5. this will lead to many more people PRACTICING homosexuality
6. this will lead to a massive underpopulation problem.
7. the homo community (I have plenty of documentation on this one) is trying to ban Bris Milah.
8. this movement has led to to many kids being brainwashed in the schools
9. this movement wants to destroy freedom of religion
10. this will lead to many more STDs (and not just homosexual ones either)
Well in the past esp in the era where homosexual relations were illegal it was still common and I even worked collecting old criminal records that dated in the mid 19th century and it was not unusual to see records of men being arrested for homosexual offences. There are gay beats in the area where I have lived that has existed for over an hundred years and still running. But of course homosexuals would not come out of the closet when homosexual relations were illegal.
Yet in the past most homosexuals married yet their marriage was largely an sham and they lived an double life. Many would not admit to themselves as homosexuals even though they had gay relationships. This pattern is still seen today mostly in countries where homosexuality is illegal as well as from many religious families in the western world. Infact I know an friend who lives in an country where homosexuality is illegal and has admitted having homosexual relationships but refuses to label himself as gay.
I'm not debating that there were evil people then to
lets try a simple question what % of people who had a gay relation today do you think would have had one if they were born in 1850?(and lived the same amount of time they do today)
I'm not debating that there were evil people then to
lets try a simple question what % of people who had a gay relation today do you think would have had one if they were born in 1850?(and lived the same amount of time they do today)
if that number is not 100% my case is closed.
Those questions were not asked then and even if it was then many that would have committed homosexual relations would not admit to it esp in public as they would lose their jobs, ridiculed and being bashed up or even arrested.
Those questions were not asked then and even if it was then many that would have committed homosexual relations would not admit to it esp in public as they would lose their jobs, ridiculed and other things.
I'm asking you based on what you know (no one in the world would ever say that there no homosexual relations going on for in areas that banned it)
if every person today who once had a homosexual relation grew up then what % would have had one then?
The thread is active and it is a current topic. Why are you obsessed with this topic? Not only have you posted in this thread but you have recently posted in the following threads: "Homosexuality is created by man", "Why Do Christians Oppose Gay Marriage", "Obama's Gay Marriage Stance", and "Marriage for All". Could it be that you are obsessed with promoting gay marriage? Nice try with the red herring, though.
Of course I have, and the reason is that I am disgusted when it comes to bigots such as yourself, and I just cannot give you a free pass...You people have done enough damage to civilization...
I feel exactly the way Bertrand Russell felt, and believe this quote of his truthfully says it best...
You find as you look around the world that every single bit of progress in humane feeling, every improvement in the criminal law, every step toward the diminution of war, every step toward better treatment of the colored races, or every mitigation of slavery, every moral progress that there has been in the world, has been consistently opposed by the organized churches of the world. I say quite deliberately that the Christian religion, as organized in its churches, has been and still is the principal enemy of moral progress in the world.
Bertrand Russell
4. Jewish tradition twice links the destruction of the world to men "marrying" other men
5. this will lead to many more people PRACTICING homosexuality
You're full of crap.
Gay people are gay. Straight people are straight.
Allowing those who are gay to marry will not lead to more gay people. Sorry, it is what it is.
I'm asking you based on what you know (no one in the world would ever say that there no homosexual relations going on for in areas that banned it)
if every person today who once had a homosexual relation grew up then what % would have had one then?
It would have been the same today as in the past. There has not been an society where an majority of people are homosexuals.
You state you are an Jew and according many fundamentalist the cities of sodom and gomorrah they were destroyed due to the sins of homosexuality. However according to the Torah homosexuality was not the only crimes of the reason why these cities were destroyed. In addition the people wanted to have sex with angels.
You state that homosexuality would result in massive decrease in population. What about Ancient Roman Empire. Homosexuality was not taboo for much of that era then yet it population kept increasing and the only times it decreased was due to wars and plague as well as other natural disasters such as Earthquakes.
In Feudal Japan homosexuality was not illegal and there was not an massive decrease in its population. Of course today Japan population is declining but it not due to homosexuality. It because Japan today is very materialistic and due to the introduction of contraception and legalised abortions.
The western world, esp Europe is experiencing an population decline the same reason as Japan is today.
The same argument can be made to people who are attracted to and only love children. Thankfully our law prevents those individuals from marrying individuals who have not attained a certain age. You apparently have a problem with reasonable social controls - the fact is that anyone can marry if they wish to - stating that they are being forced to marry someone is simply a lie.
Preventing an underdeveloped child from marrying a manipulative adult is quite different than preventing gay adults from marrying. We're talking about consenting adults, not kids. I don't see the correlation.
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